How Should MB Be Moderated?

Key · 06-09-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Come on man.

Is it no? They shouldn't be reported if people know its a joke?

**Goofle** · 06-09-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Is it no? They shouldn't be reported if people know its a joke?

I mean, you can report Trollheart's jokes if you want.

Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread. So continue.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

We've discussed this before, but perhaps you forget.

I believe what I wrote last time, or even the last two times, is that I don't think it should be all judgment and context. When a moderater is confronted with a user who has broken some rule in some common way, there should be some policy, guideline or precedent as to what the appropriate punishment should be. This makes the job easier. Dealing with common rule breaking shouldn't feel like solving some big dilemma. The unusual situations are what should call for that and this moderator will experience those too.

When there's no policy or guideline telling a mod how to deal with a certain situation, it makes it easier to not deal with it.

I remember discussing it before, thanks. And I remember pointing out to you that we already have guidelines and precedents for such occasions.

Guybrush · 06-09-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I remember discussing it before, thanks. And I remember pointing out to you that we already have guidelines and precedents for such occasions.

Yes, I remember.

So let's say a moderator stumbles over a short, nonsense post. What do the MB moderators guidelines or policy say a mod should do?

Trollheart · 06-09-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

When I said drama/"having fun", I was speaking on two different things. Just like meme/gif/emoticon is three different things.

Yeah but you're (seemingly) grouping them together which makes them sort of the same. It's not like you're saying "having fun/causing offence" and they're obviously two separate things. The oblique links the two, as if they mean the same basic thing. I think. My head hurts, I think I need to lie down.

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Originally Posted by Ki

So any post that is jokingly offensive to another member even when the other members know it's a joke should be reported?

Obviously Goof is talking about serious offensive posts, like when a stranger/newb tells you to **** off. Or makes some sexual reference when they don't know you. Stuff that would not be seen as acceptable by the majority here, am I right?

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I mean, you can report Trollheart's jokes if you want.

Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread. So continue.

My jokes are offensive, this is true.

As for Roxy wanting the poll (and while I hesitate to speak for her this is what I understood her to mean) it wasn't like she said "Oh yeah! Let's have a poll!" It was more like "stop all the going round in circles and just put a poll up so we can vote and see if this is worth continuing."

Trollheart · 06-09-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Yes, I remember.

So let's say a moderator stumbles over a short, nonsense post. What do the MB moderators guidelines or policy say a mod should do?

Watch where they're walking in future?

Key · 06-09-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Obviously Goof is talking about serious offensive posts, like when a stranger/newb tells you to **** off. Or makes some sexual reference when they don't know you. Stuff that would not be seen as acceptable by the majority here, am I right?

I had assumed that's what Goof meant, I just wasn't sure.

Your ass looks nice by the way.

Trollheart · 06-09-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I had assumed that's what Goof meant, I just wasn't sure.

Your ass looks nice by the way.

Why thank you. We call them donkeys over here though...

RoxyRollah · 06-09-2015, 08:41 PM

^I said let's vote on it so people were not forced into something they did not truly want. So yeah TH you were correct.

RoxyRollah · 06-09-2015, 09:54 PM

Concerns: I'm concerned that if we try it and we don't like it we can't go back.
I'm ok with change, I'm not ok with not being able to revolt and stop the madness.

So let me see if I'm smart enough to grasp this.
Safe Zone=lounge
9 pts equals week ban
Over 9 or multiple infracts equal perma ban.( Somewhere someone's keeping track.)
No endless use of meme/giff / not accetpble?

Is this it in a nutshell? Am I missing anything important?

Tore:
May I say this to get this off my chest please don't be offended,its completely out of respect I say this to you openly in front of God and everybody,

You have a genuine love for MB and I see that, you want a fair place where everyone feels welcome, safe, and not a ",wasteland of spam" (TY JD I had to borrow it.), and awash in hateful comments and mind numbing arguments played out via giff, memes, one liners,& emoji. That is commendable in its own right, your approach sucked man, you were so I'm right you are wrong about it but in a polite manner it was and is infuriating. Your timing was terrible also, Urban's leaving my have inspired you to help MB to clean its act but it was IMO too soon. (What do I know anyway) I think with those two factors in play I think Soulflower, while my friend ( I do not say this lightly and have chosen my words carefully Jen don't be offended) my have unknowingly latched on to your idea and expressed her hurt feelings through your idea and it came across as vengeful and sullied your initial ideals.Calling for new mods when that isn't what was needed, a heart to heart was what was needed between her and the two mods that have issues and they should have had Yac sit in so the air could be cleared betwixt all parties.(Again my opinion.) I just want you to hear me when I say I felt pushed to completely agree with you on everything which is part of the reasons why I suggested a vote from the from the first thread and OP. When that feeling arises in me its because I'm so American it hurts and I feel honestly voting should be a way EVERYONE'S voice be heard regardless of the ideas creator being right or wrong. I like you brother, so don't take this as bash on you as a person, I would never dream of doing that, rather a bash of your delivery and timining.Thank you for your effort man, I give a **** about this place and its members and I don't want to see it pissed away so I'll always respect you for that even if we disagree from time to time.

And that's all I have to say about that........

View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)	15	60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs)	8	32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums	7	28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)	18	72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts	10	40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts	13	52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts	2	8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken	10	40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken	15	60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user	7	28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny	4	16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny	16	64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions	5	20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans	16	64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out	7	28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account	4	16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts	21	84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)	18	72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately)	5	20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.	13	52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods.	6	24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained.	17	68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced.	6	24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply.	5	20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll