How Should MB Be Moderated?

Burning Down · 06-09-2015, 10:50 AM

Honestly, I have not been here much lately because of personal crap and so have not had the time or patience to read through the original thread. I'm abstaining from voting because I don't yet understand what's going on here.

Key · 06-09-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I'm not opposed to making changes if that's what people want.

But what about those that don't? Would they just have to deal with it? If any of this ends up approved, my activity here will drop immensely.

Lisnaholic · 06-09-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

^theyve expressed disapproval of changing anything regarding the rules etc. You can see most of them voted No on the previous poll.

Yes, they voted no on tore's original infraction package, but this poll is about various other ítems too.

RoxyRollah · 06-09-2015, 10:55 AM

no your not reading the wrong poll love, I'm just saying some folks aren't into it. Some are. And those not into change only have buttons in the initial poll and this sorta reads like f you guys your opinions only half matter, which was the problem with the original poll and it looks like sore loosing.Because it was 20-10 last I looked.

DwnWthVwls · 06-09-2015, 10:55 AM

Every category has an option that represents how things currently are and alternatives. Wording might be loaded but it still fits.

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The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regulars)

I don't see a problem with this. Either you want respected members to be given some leeway for their past contributions(or whatever else) or you don't. Some of you are getting incredibly nitpicky over some really dumb ish.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

But what about those that don't? Would they just have to deal with it? If any of this ends up approved, my activity here will drop immensely.

I'm not really sure what you're saying here. If the majority of the forum wants X, are you saying the forum shouldn't consider X? I think it's reasonable to consider changes if the majority want them, though based on the previous poll, it looks like majority don't.

Guybrush · 06-09-2015, 11:00 AM

To clear up any confusion, the previous poll was a yes / no poll regarding my suggestion. This is not about that anymore. This is something else.

All you basically have to do is vote for whatever statements you agree with.

Reading up on the old discussion may be useful if you want to find some arguments on the things that I suggested and I really think people need to know what the infractions system does before they don't vote for a general policy to use it. It effectively automates record keeping, bans and helps ensure transparency. It's a sweet thang.

The Batlord · 06-09-2015, 11:02 AM

Yeah, the options are fine and it took me all of thirty seconds to vote.

RoxyRollah · 06-09-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, the options are fine and it took me all of thirty seconds to vote.

1\2 minute man.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I don't see a problem with this. Either you want respected members to be given some leeway for their past contributions(or whatever else) or you don't. Some of you are getting incredibly nitpicky over some really dumb ish.

The issue is that that wasn't really the question in the first place so for someone with my position that issue, which I've made clear from very early on, it's being presented with a proposal they disagree with versus a strawman of their actual position. Kind of problematic.

View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)	15	60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs)	8	32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums	7	28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)	18	72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts	10	40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts	13	52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts	2	8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken	10	40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken	15	60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user	7	28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny	4	16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny	16	64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions	5	20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans	16	64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out	7	28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account	4	16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts	21	84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)	18	72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately)	5	20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.	13	52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods.	6	24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained.	17	68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced.	6	24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply.	5	20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

06-09-2015, 11:00 AM	#37 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	To clear up any confusion, the previous poll was a yes / no poll regarding my suggestion. This is not about that anymore. This is something else. All you basically have to do is vote for whatever statements you agree with. Reading up on the old discussion may be useful if you want to find some arguments on the things that I suggested and I really think people need to know what the infractions system does before they don't vote for a general policy to use it. It effectively automates record keeping, bans and helps ensure transparency. It's a sweet thang. __________________ Something Completely Different

06-09-2015, 10:50 AM	#31 (permalink)
Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	Honestly, I have not been here much lately because of personal crap and so have not had the time or patience to read through the original thread. I'm abstaining from voting because I don't yet understand what's going on here.