How Should MB Be Moderated?

Machine · 06-09-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Now it says Trollheart.

Oh wait...

Here we go back to normal. Just no one leave anymore comments.

Lisnaholic · 06-09-2015, 10:27 AM

I think tore has done a great job with this poll. It' s a rare opportunity for us to get a clear idea of public opinion on a lot of issues that periodically have turned up in MB discussion threads.

It may look complicated at a glance, but it took me about 2 mins to vote. I would strongly recommend other members to make that slight effort too. The poll results could become a useful resource for mods and regulars alike, to either promote or resist change.

As tore says, there are options to show your approval of the status quo as well as suggestions for change, so I say; let your opinion be heard. The more people who vote, the more representative the poll becomes - and remember what they say; if you don't bother to vote, you can't complain about how things are run!

Key · 06-09-2015, 10:29 AM

^thats under the impression that the mods will approve/deny anything regardless of poll results. Almost all the mods have expressed their disapproval so knowing that, what is the point?

YorkeDaddy · 06-09-2015, 10:32 AM

I have a serious problem with option 8, which operates under the assumption that changes WILL be made.

I voted for every other option though. Not much to explain

RoxyRollah · 06-09-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

I think tore has done a great job with this poll. It' s a rare opportunity for us to get a clear idea of public opinion on a lot of issues that periodically have turned up in MB discussion threads.

It may look complicated at a glance, but it took me about 2 mins to vote. I would strongly recommend other members to make that slight effort too. The poll results could become a useful resource for mods and regulars alike, to either promote or resist change.

As tore says, there are options to show your approval of the status quo as well as suggestions for change, so I say; let your opinion be heard. The more people who vote, the more representative the poll becomes - and remember what they say; if you don't bother to vote, you can't complain about how things are run!

Brother, some people don't want change you know , rewording it doesn't make their opinions different just means they still feel the same way they did a week ago.

Trollheart · 06-09-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

I think tore has done a great job with this poll. It' s a rare opportunity for us to get a clear idea of public opinion on a lot of issues that periodically have turned up in MB discussion threads.

It may look complicated at a glance, but it took me about 2 mins to vote. I would strongly recommend other members to make that slight effort too. The poll results could become a useful resource for mods and regulars alike, to either promote or resist change.

As tore says, there are options to show your approval of the status quo as well as suggestions for change, so I say; let your opinion be heard. The more people who vote, the more representative the poll becomes - and remember what they say; if you don't bother to vote, you can't complain about how things are run!

Yeah, Lisna, I'm kind of reminded of our govt's desperate attempts to get us to ratify the Lisbon treaty: they had to ask us twice (what, you didn't hear us clearly enough say NO the first time?) and we eventually voted as they wanted us to. I don't agree with the need for any changes, as I've said, and therefore, for me, voting here is just a pointless exercise. I have looked through all the points, and few if any make any sense to me, or would as far as I can see, enrich my life or the running of the forum. Considering the idea has been defeated on a more or less 2-1 basis on both current polls, I honestly don't see why we need a third.

But vote all you want, I can't stop you. I just don't see this one reflecting any different an outcome than the other two have.

Oh, and now I'm running MB, until someone else posts.

Lisnaholic · 06-09-2015, 10:41 AM

Not entirely sure what you are saying, Ki. What have mods expressed their disapproval of ?

My assumption is that the poll provides a statistical base of public opinion which can help anyone, in any future discussion about several different aspects of modding policy. Isn't that sufficient point in itself?

If option X has 10 votes, option Y has 100 votes, it's immediately clear which option is more popular. Whether or not option Y can be implemented is really a seperate issue, but that shouldn't discourage people from voting.

Key · 06-09-2015, 10:44 AM

^theyve expressed disapproval of changing anything regarding the rules etc. You can see most of them voted No on the previous poll.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

^thats under the impression that the mods will approve/deny anything regardless of poll results. Almost all the mods have expressed their disapproval so knowing that, what is the point?

I'm not opposed to making changes if that's what people want.

Lisnaholic · 06-09-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Brother, some people don't want change you know , rewording it doesn't make their opinions different just means they still feel the same way they did a week ago.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah, Lisna, I'm kind of reminded of our govt's desperate attempts to get us to ratify the Lisbon treaty: they had to ask us twice (what, you didn't hear us clearly enough say NO the first time?) and we eventually voted as they wanted us to. I don't agree with the need for any changes, as I've said, and therefore, for me, voting here is just a pointless exercise. I have looked through all the points, and few if any make any sense to me, or would as far as I can see, enrich my life or the running of the forum. Considering the idea has been defeated on a more or less 2-1 basis on both current polls, I honestly don't see why we need a third.

But vote all you want, I can't stop you. I just don't see this one reflecting any different an outcome than the other two have.

Oh, and now I'm running MB, until someone else posts.

Are we reading this poll different ways, Roxy and Trollheart? To me, it's just trying to give everyone a chance to show what they'd like. If you don't want any changes you can skim through the options and just pick out the ones that'll leave things as they are.

( Never heard about that Lisbon Treaty referéndum, which sounds both sad and bizarre, but I don't think that's what's going on here. I recommend you put in your "No Change" votes so that the poll results reflect what people actually want.)

View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)	15	60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs)	8	32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums	7	28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)	18	72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts	10	40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts	13	52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts	2	8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken	10	40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken	15	60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user	7	28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny	4	16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny	16	64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions	5	20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans	16	64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out	7	28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account	4	16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts	21	84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)	18	72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately)	5	20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.	13	52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods.	6	24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained.	17	68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced.	6	24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply.	5	20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

06-09-2015, 10:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	I think tore has done a great job with this poll. It' s a rare opportunity for us to get a clear idea of public opinion on a lot of issues that periodically have turned up in MB discussion threads. It may look complicated at a glance, but it took me about 2 mins to vote. I would strongly recommend other members to make that slight effort too. The poll results could become a useful resource for mods and regulars alike, to either promote or resist change. As tore says, there are options to show your approval of the status quo as well as suggestions for change, so I say; let your opinion be heard. The more people who vote, the more representative the poll becomes - and remember what they say; if you don't bother to vote, you can't complain about how things are run! __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

06-09-2015, 10:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Not entirely sure what you are saying, Ki. What have mods expressed their disapproval of ? My assumption is that the poll provides a statistical base of public opinion which can help anyone, in any future discussion about several different aspects of modding policy. Isn't that sufficient point in itself? If option X has 10 votes, option Y has 100 votes, it's immediately clear which option is more popular. Whether or not option Y can be implemented is really a seperate issue, but that shouldn't discourage people from voting. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

06-09-2015, 10:29 AM	#23 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^thats under the impression that the mods will approve/deny anything regardless of poll results. Almost all the mods have expressed their disapproval so knowing that, what is the point?

06-09-2015, 10:44 AM	#28 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^theyve expressed disapproval of changing anything regarding the rules etc. You can see most of them voted No on the previous poll.