How Should MB Be Moderated?

RoxyRollah · 06-15-2015, 01:21 PM

Gotcha.

You need a raise Janszy.

**Janszoon** · 06-15-2015, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Blatantly disrespecting someone who has never said an ill word toward anyone is it for me.

What is this referring to?

RoxyRollah · 06-15-2015, 01:27 PM

? wait what?

The Batlord · 06-15-2015, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Blatantly disrespecting someone who has never said an ill word toward anyone is it for me.

Please forgive my rhyming foolishness, as I've kind of made some promises, but don't think I ignore the seriousness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

For the next twenty-four hours, I shall post only in rhyme. For the record, 2:46 am is the time.

But back to the discussion at hand, so that I may explain my stand. Perhaps earlier I was wrong, and did come on too strong, but we're tired of this talk, and rather strongly balk, when it continues to garner chalk, and go on far too long.

Vegangelica's post, even more so than the most, invokes the distant past, when her criticisms were vast, and unfair to the mods, calling them rogue gods, disrespecting their dedication, without consideration, over realities you must be aware, and it seemed truly most unfair. She sided oft with trolls, without regard to context, ignoring disruptive subtext, to critique modship's roles.

I understand her claims, and her distaste for seeming flames, but the lack of nuance with which she sees, the current mod decrees, can often seem insulting, so naturally resulting, in irritation at her dissertation, and sadly unkind remuneration.

Seriously though, I do not mock, with this silly rhyming talk, but this day I am speaking so, and hope it does not cause a row.

Trollheart · 06-15-2015, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Please forgive my rhyming foolishness, as I've kind of made some promises, but don't think I ignore the seriousness.

Perhaps earlier I was wrong, and did come on too strong, but we're tired of this talk, and rather strongly balk, when it continues to garner chalk, and go on far too long.

Vegan's post, even more so than the most, invokes the distant past, when her criticisms were vast, and unfair to the mods, calling them rogue gods, disrespecting their dedication, without consideration, over realities you must be aware, and it seemed truly most unfair. She sided oft with trolls, without regard to context, ignoring disruptive subtext, to critique modship's roles.

I understand her claims, and her distaste for seeming flames, but the lack of nuance with which she sees, the current mod decrees, can often seem insulting, so naturally resulting, in irritation at her dissertation, and sadly unkind remuneration.

Seriously though, I do not mock, with this silly rhyming talk, but this day I am speaking so, and hope it does not cause a row.

Ah, that's some fine rhymin' there, Mister B!

Steph, I've already apologised to her and anyway as I said, all I did was point out that she never makes short posts, which is the truth. I'm not sure why you're getting so het up about it. Like I said, she has not even come out complaining about it, so she can either a) take a joke or b) hasn't seen the post yet. Either way, I think people going all white knight on her behalf is a bit odd: she doesn't post that often, Urban always slagged her off and anyway there was no harm in what I said, or Ki either. Nothing but some lighthearted banter, you know?

DwnWthVwls · 06-15-2015, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore

I still hope MB will change as a result of the poll above, but it will have to happen without my help. I'm doing an Urban.

Friends here, send me a PM and perhaps we can hook up on facebook or something.

See ya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I believe I referenced that already.

I must have missed it..

DwnWthVwls · 06-15-2015, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ki

^"for a wider range of people" sorry, that made me laugh since most of the people here didn't support this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

"a wider range of people" probably should be translated to "a few people who think this should happen because, well, they think this should happen".

I think you are forgetting that part of the intention behind Tore's ideas were to encourage new members to join and an attempt to make MB more popular in the long run.

YorkeDaddy · 06-15-2015, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Blatantly disrespecting someone who has never said an ill word toward anyone is it for me.

Just because it's all hidden behind a sugar-coated exterior doesn't mean she's not being incredibly selfish and unwilling to acknowledge anyone's points but her's or tore's.

Trollheart · 06-15-2015, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

See ya

I must have missed it..

Here you go:

EVERY post is a wall of text. Still, I can talk I guess (learned how to do that very early in my life, haven't shut up yet)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think you are forgetting that part of the intention behind Tore's ideas were to encourage new members to join and an attempt to make MB more popular in the long run.

New members joining is a gamble; you have no idea what they're going to turn out to be. Of course, you'll get decent people like Fiddler and Innerspaceboy, but you can just as easily end up with people you really would prefer would go elsewhere. A change in rules is not going to affect them, as they would not have been here to see how things were, so would assume it had always been this way. I think it's more important to try to keep those who have contributed to the forum and helped to develop it, and continue to, than some random newbs who may or may not be what we're looking for. I'm not saying don't invite new members, but I'm totally against changing the rules for their benefit. The rewards are uncertain at best, and the negatives could very well outweigh the positives, ie people who have been here years leaving because they don't like the new system and feel it was implemented over their objections.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Just because it's all hidden behind a sugar-coated exterior doesn't mean she's not being incredibly selfish and unwilling to acknowledge anyone's points but her's or tore's.

I have to be clear here: I never said anything of the sort, and just made a joke and a few comments. But yes, she did restrict her replies to only those she wished to respond to, and agreed with. As did, for the most part, tore, unless he was trying to force someone to see his point of view and change their mind.

I would like to think that if I had a proposal and people were against it that I would engage with them and accept their input rather than just plough ahead regardless and ignore their concerns or points.

DwnWthVwls · 06-15-2015, 04:39 PM

It's "I can't talk"... at least that's how we say it over here. Thanks for clarification.

View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)	15	60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs)	8	32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums	7	28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)	18	72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts	10	40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts	13	52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts	2	8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken	10	40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken	15	60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user	7	28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny	4	16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny	16	64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions	5	20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans	16	64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out	7	28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account	4	16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts	21	84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)	18	72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately)	5	20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.	13	52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods.	6	24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained.	17	68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced.	6	24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply.	5	20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll