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View Poll Results: Which statements do you agree the most with? (public poll)
1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users) 15 60.00%
1B. The rules should NOT be applied equally to all members (ex. mods more lenient with regualrs) 8 32.00%
2A. Rules should apply equally to all forums 7 28.00%
2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict) 18 72.00%
3A. Outside safe zones, mod policy should allow for short, nonsense posts 10 40.00%
3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts 13 52.00%
3C. Outside safe zones, mod policy should prohibit short, nonsense posts 2 8.00%
4A. General mod policy should be to react to every instance where a rule is broken 10 40.00%
4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken 15 60.00%
5A. Details of rule enforcement is ultimately between a mod and a user 7 28.00%
5B. Details of rule enforcement can ulimately be subject to other mods scrutiny 4 16.00%
5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny 16 64.00%
6A. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use temporary infractions 5 20.00%
6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans 16 64.00%
6C. There should be no general policy for how punishment is carried out 7 28.00%
7A. For rule enforcement, moderators should use a joint, anonymous account 4 16.00%
7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts 21 84.00%
8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months) 18 72.00%
8B. A new moderation policy should NOT have a trial run first (implemented immediately) 5 20.00%
9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods. 13 52.00%
9B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods. 6 24.00%
9C. The current mod team should be retained. 17 68.00%
9D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced. 6 24.00%
10. Some of my concerns are not listed in the individual items, but I will voice them in a reply. 5 20.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-10-2015, 02:21 PM   #131 (permalink)
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How ironic that this thread is actually making its point better through the behaviour of the likes of us. We're doing tore's work for him. Sort of. Like Jansz says, back on topic or you hand tore the victory. Nobody wants to score an own goal.

Is it possible to have comments disabled but the poll still left active? Bit mad maybe, but I feel that so much of the conversation here has strayed away from the idea of the thread, and what is to be said has perhaps been said; everyone is kind of either ignoring the topic, making fun of it (including me) or else anyone who is making actual comments on the topic is just rehashing old points and going round and round in an ever-decreasing circle.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:39 PM   #132 (permalink)
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sorry, lol. please continue to debate over whether we should enforce forum rules or something like that. i'm sure we all have much to learn.

snarky comment aside, i actually am sorry for derailing the last 2 pages if people really have something they want to discuss here. i thought this **** was pretty much dead by now but yea
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:43 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:05 PM   #134 (permalink)
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OK , we really need a final vote date, that way we can actually have a start/end date if a trial run is implemented. We need a non partial mod, cough* ( Yac) to maybe tally everything and if its what we the posters of MB truly want we need someone to write out the amended rules.
All my opinion but right now its kinda a headless snake, and it being open to long allows both sides to shoot themselves in the foot. If adopted after the month or two month trial we should discuss and modify again if need be.

Thoughts on this mini proposal?
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:21 PM   #135 (permalink)
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OK , we really need a final vote date, that way we can actually have a start/end date if a trial run is implemented. We need a non partial mod, cough* ( Yac) to maybe tally everything and if its what we the posters of MB truly want we need someone to write out the amended rules.
All my opinion but right now its kinda a headless snake, and it being open to long allows both sides to shoot themselves in the foot. After the month or two month trial we should discuss and modify again if need be.

Thoughts on this mini proposal?
The vote closes in about a week and a half. If the current voting trends continue, it seems like this might be the things the majority will want :
  • 1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)
  • 2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)
  • 3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts
  • 4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken
  • 5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny
  • 6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans
  • 7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts
  • 8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)
  • 9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.
  • 9C. The current mod team should be retained.

Out of these, the bolded options are the ones I assume are out of the ordinary and would require some work to implement, if that was to happen.

I think the best way to implement wanted changes would probably be to appoint a project leader for this and delegate the task to him / her. One of the mods may want to do this. Then they're in charge of making a plan for how to implement this, get feedback from the community on things where that might be necessary, and then try to work through that plan.

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I would volunteer, but not unless there was a decision to implement options 1A, 4A and 6A. Based on how the poll is going (not to mention the previous one), that seems highly unlikely.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:28 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Maaaan.

Hold up nah, let's talk about this. Imma help you work on your salesmen ****. There you go again wit dat same song and dance, of "this is what you will want".

Let's talk about imposing on Yac, because he is the Mac daddy mod, kinda like taking it to Mount Olympus.

Edit*Salesman**** heheh totally the best typo eveah
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The vote closes in about a week and a half. If the current voting trends continue, it seems like this might be the things the majority will want :
  • 1A. The rules should be applied equally to all members (ex. rules apply equally to mods and users)
  • 2B. Rules should NOT apply equally to all forums (ex. "Safe Zones" less strict)
  • 3B. Outside safe zones, mod policy should discourage short, nonsense posts
  • 4B. General mod policy should allow for mods NOT to react to an instance where a rule is broken
  • 5C. Details of rule enforcement can be subject to public scrutiny
  • 6B. For punishment, there should be a general policy to use warnings, infractions / bans
  • 7B. For rule enforcement, moderators should use their personal accounts
  • 8A. A new moderation policy should have a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months)
  • 9A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.
  • 9C. The current mod team should be retained.

Out of these, the bolded options are the ones I assume are out of the ordinary and would require some work to implement, if that was to happen.

I think the best way to implement wanted changes would probably be to appoint a project leader for this and delegate the task to him / her. One of the mods may want to do this. Then they're in charge of making a plan for how to implement this, get feedback from the community on things where that might be necessary, and then try to work through that plan.

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I would volunteer, but not unless there was a decision to implement options 1A, 4A and 6A. Based on how the poll is going (not to mention the previous one), that seems highly unlikely.
So pretty much, people want things to stay as they are. Well, this has been time well spent.
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I'm sorry the details of why people are infracted should be private unless the people involved give permission to devulge it.THIS really bothers me.I'm deeply private and Id be offended if people choose to share on my behalf. I got no problem telling the community if you all asked me but that is my choice . And I show all of you that respect those perma banned, those infracted etc. Please show me that respect in kind.

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So pretty much, people want things to stay as they are. Well, this has been time well spent.
Seems like it at the moment, but some policy tweaks may be called for.

We'll see after the two weeks.

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Perhaps, in the most passive agressive way possible; join your neighbours party and then chitchat with people, telling them you don't really care about parties.

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I'm sorry the details of why people are infracted should be private unless the people involved give permission to devulge it.THIS really bothers me.I'm deeply private and Id be offended if people choose to share on my behalf. I got no problem telling the community if you all asked me but that is my choice . And I show all of you that respect those perma banned, those infracted etc. Please show me that respect in kind.
I understand where you're coming from, but you'd probably get infracted for something you made public (posted on the forums). People would already know. Rule enforcement being available for public scrutiny can work in both mods and users favour, but it generally favours the user, for example if you got banned for no good reason.
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I understand that you are missing my point.

I know how they work I have some. I mean I don't want there to be an infraction bulletin board thread or an infraction wall of shame thread. That is not OK.

Edit: You missed my response to your salesmanship. Ahhhm.....you have some control issues we need to address...
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