i didn't actually make any equivalence though... you're just throwing out vague fallacies to sound smart. i wasn't making any sort of comparison between forum and the civil war, lol. i was questioning the principle that change needs to come from the hearts and minds of the people in general, and i used a quirky example because otherwise this issue is just so deathly boring it might as well be cspan

If you find it boring and tedious, why post here at all?

It's like pointing out that you don't care. Obviously you care enough to point out that you don't care.

What about slavery? Kind of like this right?
Equates the thread to slavery.

What about the civil rights movement? Kind of like this right?
Equates thread to civil rights movement.

Like I said before I'm cool with you playing devils advocate all the time, just don't expect me to lay back and not say anything when your tactics become ****ty.

It's like complaining about sports fans when you're not a sports fan.

that might be an accurate criticism if roxy was only saying forum changes on musicbanter need to come from the hearts and minds of the people

but i know her well enough to know that she extends that logic into the real world and politics

so i was using real world examples to go against it

and you want brownie points for linking me to some wiki fallacy page instead of actually trying to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion

i thought roxy's post was pretty poetic tbh and i was just trying to **** with her a bit... and then frownland came in with his wikipedia knowledge and hipster beard and it turned into a cluster****

It's like complaining about the loud party your neighbor is having when you're not interested in loud parties.

What does Roxxy have to do with this? Not to mention that fallacies are a concept because people use them when they are adhering to ****e logic. If I say that aliens are responsible for the elements of the forum that tore doesn't like, should I expect you to give tl;dr responses apart from 'that's ****ing stupid dude
? Of course not. The fact that what you're using is bad logic is enough to disprove your point.

well, i have been mostly absent in this thread/debate and i figured it was over anyway but i was interested in roxy's post so i started some ****

Oh ok. I've been absent as well but I've still been halfassesly following it so I took interest in calling out your bad logic.