It's not about winning. It's about doing what makes the best difference for all, not just you and your own priorities. I think most of us are reasonable and would love change for the better, but we need to make sure it's change that we all, as a community majority, agree with. If that's something that threatens your perspective as a member of it, then it's unfortunate to say that perhaps you are not in a position to be giving advice for what's best for the rest of us.

Did I lump you?

No I did not.


I said some members and I did not mention your name.

So I am not sure why you think I did...

This is actually how Tore has presented this whole thing. It's either his way or not at all. That's the problem. That's why i'd prefer not at all. There's no room for change in what he wants, which as Freebase has stated, it's a package deal, or nothing at all.

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Good one

#feelingguiltyIcalledhimausedcarsalesmen;).

Exactly.

Or maybe the fact that I proposed an alternate voting solution that included individual rule changes to be voted upon independently was reason enough to not vote on a package deal. I assumed you read that part.

By not casting a vote at all, I remove myself from the opinion pool. And since my opinion is that I don't agree with everything in the package deal, and have proposed a better approach to voting on ideas, I voted no on the package deal.

Don't worry, if Tore creates another poll with individual items able to be voted on, using the multiple choice poll option, I'm sure we'll get far more usable results from the community. At least then, you can be assured that the community is speaking more accurately their perspective and we'll be screwing over less people upon implementation, which I'm sure you can get on board with.

I notice you are kinda new to this discussion.

The reason why the poll was created was because there was a prior discussion between members and Tore about some possible new rule implementations that he suggested and most of the members did not like it while some agreed with his idea.

Most of the members were insisting that they did not want rules or infractions and enjoyed the current culture of the forum.

And IMO Tore created the poll as a result of the discussions and suggestions that were discussed.

So I don't think its fair to blame the creation of the poll strictly on "what Tore wanted" when he actually talked to multiple members (for feedback) before doing it.

The consensus that was gathered from the discussion was that some members did not want rules and infractions which is why the poll is either YES or NO for rules and infractions.

This is scandalous! Stop playin. That' s hard core man and it speaks to me more than anything anyone has written thus far.

Stop the presses!