New Policy for Rule Enforcement

Guybrush · 06-02-2015, 07:13 AM

I've forwarded a suggestion to adopt a new rule enforcing policy. During its discussion, it was suggested we put it up a vote to gauge where the community stands on this issue.

Before voting, please make sure you understand the basics of the infractions system and other details of the suggestion.

Are you for or against the following suggestion?

Suggestion summary

Mod team is bolstered with additional moderators
Outside the lounge, moderators consistently enforce rules through the use of temporary infractions
Rules apply equally to all

Suggestion discussion and reasoning

Implementation would happen for a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months) and permanently if trial was deemed successful
The general goal of the suggestion is to prevent fights and bickering from erupting as well as create an environment where rule enforcement is treated with integrity and is predictable to our members.
The goal is not to turn MB into a police state, nazi state, etc. Nobody wants that.
A number of infractions are required before it has a practical effect. Hence, it generally requires several punitive actions within a specific period of time before a member's freedom is limited.
The proposed system would be relatively forgiving in that when infractions time out, they no longer have any effect. This potentially allows for an endless amount of chances for a member to improve behaviour and regain freedom to use the boards.
The current rules should be revised before implementation

Discuss the proposed system here.

edit :

PS! A new, more detailed poll has since been created as a result of the discussion here. You can find it here : http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...moderated.html

RoxyRollah · 06-02-2015, 07:19 AM

Thank you.

The Batlord · 06-02-2015, 07:23 AM

I think the title of the thread is pretty loaded. I'd prefer something more along the lines of "Are You In Favor of the Proposed Rule Changes?".

Guybrush · 06-02-2015, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I think the title of the thread is pretty loaded. I'd prefer something more along the lines of "Are You In Favor of the Proposed Rule Changes?".

I think it is pretty accurate.

Equal means that everyone receives punishment for breaking rules. To rid this site of favoritism which might otherwise protect a rule breaking member is one of the most important ideas behind this suggestion.

Consistent means that enforcement follows as a predictable consequence whenever a rule is broken and that enforcement of that rule happens in a predictable way, ex. always with a PM stating the cause and an amount of infractions that you can gauge beforehand.

This is at the heart, soul and goal of the philosophy behind the suggestion.

The Batlord · 06-02-2015, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore

I think it is pretty accurate.

Equal means that everyone receives punishment for breaking rules. To rid this site of favoritism which might otherwise protect a rule breaking member is one of the most important ideas behind this suggestion.

Consistent means that enforcement follows as a predictable consequence whenever a rule is broken and that enforcement of that rule happens in a predictable way, ex. always with a PM stating the cause and an amount of infractions that you can gauge beforehand.

This is at the heart, soul and goal of the philosophy behind the suggestion.

It's your idea, so of course you think the title is accurate. If I were to have made the thread, I'd think "Do You Want More Rules and Infractions?" would be pretty accurate as well.

Guybrush · 06-02-2015, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's your idea, so of course you think the title is accurate. If I were to have made the thread, I'd think "Do You Want More Rules and Infractions?" would be pretty accurate as well.

Not really. I am not proposing more rules and you would only get more infractions if you were breaking the rules.

"Would you like more rules enforcement?" would be better.

RoxyRollah · 06-02-2015, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's your idea, so of course you think the title is accurate. If I were to have made the thread, I'd think "Do You Want More Rules and Infractions?" would be pretty accurate as well.

See the problem is if he quit like 20 pages ago, he would come off less like a used car salesman. Now it just seems like you want us to buy a lemon because it's only been driven to church by a little old lady on Sundays.

And are there lemon laws that go with this change if the vote finds that this is what should be done?

**Janszoon** · 06-02-2015, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore

I think it is pretty accurate.

Of course you do, it's your proposal, but nevertheless it's an exceptionally loaded way of asking the question.

Guybrush · 06-02-2015, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Of course you do, it's your proposal, but nevertheless it's an exceptionally loaded way of asking the question.

My goal is to improve on how this site is run and for this reason, I am proposing a policy to ensure equal treatment of members and consistent rules enforcing. The intention is idealistic.

What else should I call it? "Do You Want To Turn MB Into A Police State?" I don't want that.

RoxyRollah · 06-02-2015, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore

My goal is to improve on how this site is run and for this reason, I am proposing a policy to ensure equal treatment of members and consistent rules enforcing. The intention is idealistic.

What else should I call it? "Do You Want To Turn MB Into A Police State?" I don't want that.

Brochacho, you are an effective salesman, but you have gotten to the point of so selly it's not trustworthy. Com'on now.

View Poll Results: Are you in favour of a new policy for rule enforcement? (not anonymous)
Yes	13	36.11%
No	20	55.56%
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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	New Policy for Rule Enforcement I've forwarded a suggestion to adopt a new rule enforcing policy. During its discussion, it was suggested we put it up a vote to gauge where the community stands on this issue. Before voting, please make sure you understand the basics of the infractions system and other details of the suggestion. Are you for or against the following suggestion? Suggestion summary Mod team is bolstered with additional moderators Outside the lounge, moderators consistently enforce rules through the use of temporary infractions Rules apply equally to all Suggestion discussion and reasoning Implementation would happen for a trial run first (ex. 1 - 2 months) and permanently if trial was deemed successful The general goal of the suggestion is to prevent fights and bickering from erupting as well as create an environment where rule enforcement is treated with integrity and is predictable to our members. The goal is not to turn MB into a police state, nazi state, etc. Nobody wants that. A number of infractions are required before it has a practical effect. Hence, it generally requires several punitive actions within a specific period of time before a member's freedom is limited. The proposed system would be relatively forgiving in that when infractions time out, they no longer have any effect. This potentially allows for an endless amount of chances for a member to improve behaviour and regain freedom to use the boards. The current rules should be revised before implementation Discuss the proposed system here. edit : PS! A new, more detailed poll has since been created as a result of the discussion here. You can find it here : http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...moderated.html __________________ Something Completely Different Last edited by Guybrush; 06-09-2015 at 05:40 AM.