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View Poll Results: Are you in favour of a new policy for rule enforcement? (not anonymous)
Yes 13 36.11%
No 20 55.56%
Don't know 3 8.33%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-05-2015, 07:20 PM   #121 (permalink)
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There's a lot of discussion, but to put it simply, I see it a bit like the following silly metaphor.

For years we've been lighting our fires by bashing rocks together, but it turns out there's been a perfectly functional lighter lying around the whole time and noone's learned to use it the right way. I'm trying to get people to use it properly.

The lighter in this silly metaphor is the infractions system. I think the people behind vbulletin had some good ideas when they thought it up and using it correctly will make rule enforcement better and also in many ways simpler.

http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...forcement.html
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Old 06-05-2015, 07:21 PM   #122 (permalink)
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[...] I like the way you number your options, but how about if each number represents one question or issue? You'll read what I mean below.
Bolstering the mod team

1. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods

1. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods
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Thoughts?
Tore, I like how you created a topic heading for the items up for vote, and I like Freebase's ideas on trying to clarify and distinguish among the various options that could be put up for vote.

I recommend using a number and a letter for each item to make the potential new poll a little less confusing. Example:
Mod team

1A. The mod team should be bolstered with additional mods.

1B. The mod team should NOT be bolstered with additional mods.

1C. The current mod team should be retained.

1D. Some or all of the current moderators should be replaced.
(I would add "1C" and "1D" to give those members who have the opinion that some or all of the current mod team should be replaced a chance to voice it officially, since it has been suggested.)

Freebase suggested this option: "The mod team should be bolstered with whoever most people like, irrelevant of personality or temper."

Freebase, does this ^ suggest that a new mod would be picked based on popular vote, rather than moderators selecting among willing candidates?

I think that it would be good to offer a counter option for mod selection, too, such as: "The mod team should be bolstered with new moderators based on personality and temper rather than popularity."

If anyone actually reads through and gets to the end of this proposed long and more detailed poll, I will be really impressed!
(EDIT: Especially if that person is right-track. )
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:28 PM   #123 (permalink)
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On the other hand, in the thread discussing this thread, Admin Yac made a statement that Music Banter was "anarchy". In fact, anarchy is not what many people think it is. It doesn't everyone can do anything they want. I mean, someone still has to be in charge of picking up the garbage every week. somebody has to empty the Proverbial cat box. Naturally, there has to be rules.
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i am in complete favor of tore's proposed police state... i only ask that in return for my support, a clause be added exempting me from some of the rules, or at the very least making me the czar of propaganda or something like that
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Old 06-06-2015, 01:07 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Freebase, does this ^ suggest that a new mod would be picked based on popular vote, rather than moderators selecting among willing candidates?

I think that it would be good to offer a counter option for mod selection, too, such as: "The mod team should be bolstered with new moderators based on personality and temper rather than popularity."

If anyone actually reads through and gets to the end of this proposed long and more detailed poll, I will be really impressed!
(EDIT: Especially if that person is right-track. )
I wouldn't personally stick around at a forum where mods are chosen by popular community vote alone, but I don't think it hurts to at least see what the community has to say about the matter. I included the particular option as a counterbalance to the other related options as to not leave out the ability to disagree and keep the options as "fair" as possible.
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Old 06-06-2015, 05:13 AM   #125 (permalink)
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If anyone actually reads through and gets to the end of this proposed long and more detailed poll, I will be really impressed!
(EDIT: Especially if that person is right-track. )[/QUOTE]

Dear Veganjellyhead, its not for me to have an opinion having lost touch with the dynamics of MB and how it's currently moderated.
I doubt there's much needs changing.

Tore mentioned the old infraction system of which I was a big fan of and was sad to see it go.
Think we used a 3 strikes and out rule.
That way all the mods were reading from the same page when it came to dealing with problem members.
It created a level playing field for both moderators and members if used even handedly.
Replacing moderators who rarely visit the site or moderate was also important. Especially when there are keen, regular members who'd love a chance to moderate these boards.
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Old 06-06-2015, 06:37 AM   #126 (permalink)
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I don't think we need new mods, Im sad we keep insulting the ones we still have standing.
We could use a couple more mods sure, but all new ones no.I don't partake in mutiny its bad form.
But Id like to point out its 17-9 . 17- no, 9 yes. That speaks volumes. Why are we still atempting a ku?
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Old 06-06-2015, 06:45 AM   #127 (permalink)
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^Yac didn't agree. He said its up to the community.

Whatever they decide to do you should never be allowed to moderate a forum, I've seen you mutilate a forum before and i know that several other MB members witnessed it too. You banned any member that didn't agree with you, you couldn't handle any level of ironic banter. That forum probably isn't there anymore, and it was mainly down to you.

This place will go down the same route as many other decent forums if you're given moderator powers, fortunately the powers that be on this forum appear to have seen through you, or they know of your destructive and attention seeking past.
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Whatever they decide to do you should never be allowed to moderate a forum, I've seen you mutilate a forum before and i know that several other MB members witnessed it too. You banned any member that didn't agree with you, you couldn't handle any level of ironic banter. That forum probably isn't there anymore, and it was mainly down to you.

This place will go down the same route as many other decent forums if you're given moderator powers, fortunately the powers that be on this forum appear to have seen through you, or they know of your destructive and attention seeking past.
Dude, good thing nobody is talking about Ki.

I dunno why you used his post as a platform to tell him you hate him in a thread about rules...

while ki has had his moments like everybody else here, hes good people.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:15 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Whatever they decide to do you should never be allowed to moderate a forum, I've seen you mutilate a forum before and i know that several other MB members witnessed it too. You banned any member that didn't agree with you, you couldn't handle any level of ironic banter. That forum probably isn't there anymore, and it was mainly down to you.

This place will go down the same route as many other decent forums if you're given moderator powers, fortunately the powers that be on this forum appear to have seen through you, or they know of your destructive and attention seeking past.
It's a little ironic that you haven't posted for god knows how long, and now out you come to attack a member who has not expressed an interest in being a mod, to run out a hypothetical situation that does nobody any good and only leaves you standing in a very bad light, with no doubt a lot of people thinking "Who the **** are you"??

Personal attacks have no place in this thread, nor indeed in this forum.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:22 AM   #130 (permalink)
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Alright, that's enough of this. Wake me up when either A) You people have figured this out or B) The forum is on fire and I should find my jacket before it burns.

I'll be with Batlord in the room where nobody gives a sh*t anymore. This thread is the most ironic thing I've ever seen on this forum.
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