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05-28-2015, 06:17 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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Successful implementation would change the MB environment into one which punishes rule breaking behaviour. Initially, this would indeed cause a lot of aggravation because the current culture is one in which rule breaking is common. There would be a lot of infractions being handed out. Possibly, groups of members would try to sabotage the initiative. But - over time, people would either adjust, leave or get permbanned and the boards we're left with after that minor cataclysm would be a friendlier and more civilized place. I'm hoping some old members would return and I think the board will also appeal more to potential future members who like forums to be civilized. So, it would cause temporary drama followed by permanent bliss.
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05-28-2015, 06:27 AM | #12 (permalink) | |||
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If the suggested restrictions are too hard, it's easy to lower the amount of infractions dished out. I'm generally not in favour of permbans. Unless the user is a robot, he or she has potential for improvement. In the environment caused by successful implementation of my suggestion, unruly users would get tempbanned over and over again anyways. Chances are they wouldn't bother and would either improve or eventually leave. Hence, the need for unusual punishment should be lessened. Quote:
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05-28-2015, 06:27 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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One of the main appeals of Music Banter is it's "culture". There are plenty of music forums out there that are strictly moderated, if that's what people want. And to be fair, Music Banter usually isn't that bad; watch how quickly personal attacks and spam get deleted out of the main music forums.
Like I said before, a bit of drama every now and then is a trade off for the leniency that we're all usually pretty responsible about, even if a few people abuse it. I know that I and a few other posters haven't always shown that responsibility, but we're just a small handful out of the massive number of members this forum has, and punishing everyone for the mistakes of the few might just make everyone needlessly angry. |
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05-28-2015, 06:57 AM | #16 (permalink) | ||
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So, like, we can't all just tighten up a bit. I mean that's really all the problem is. Some posters don't know when to stop. When too much is to much I don't see the point of the infraction system that is built in to the board with no sorta discretion towards the member posting. Can't people police themselves?
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05-28-2015, 07:05 AM | #17 (permalink) | ||
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Either way, it's just a suggestion. If it's not practical in its current state, perhaps a change in some of the details would help. Quote:
And yes, it does eliminate context in the most common situations. That's how it should be. You shouldn't have to treat every enforcement of a rule like it was uncharted territory and an excercise in judgment. Unusual situations should call for that and they're not going away. Animosity would occur, but less so when people wrap their heads around this. Let's say I decide to insult someone. I know what the rules are, I know what the consequences should be, but I do it anyways. If you then infract me, I'm gonna think "fair cop". I know what I did, probably thought it was worth it and your response was predictable and already described to me in the rules. Animosity today is generated because punishment is unpredictable and personal. My suggestion makes punishment predictable and unpersonal. Plus, getting an infraction is not the end of the world and people would still get away with things. It just puts a cap on how much of a rule breaker you can be before you disappear for a while.
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05-28-2015, 07:09 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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Let's say you have two users. One only posts long, thought out posts, but few of them. The other posts inane drivel and lots of it. These forums are made in such a way that the latter of these two users will gain lots of attention. He or she would be more visible on new posts or where have you and would have a higher post count. You would run into this person more often on average. The latter person will take over the boards. There's a problem with forums in that the very nature of how they work rewards the posting behaviour of the second inane user more than it does the first user. To create an environment where the first user thrives as much as the second user, that requires actual effort. So, if you let things slide, they will slide.
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05-28-2015, 07:11 AM | #19 (permalink) | ||
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OOooh I am trying to to screenshot my infract since we are having show and tell..
Latest Infractions Received Post Date Expires Points Reason Posted By Reputation 05-01-2014 09:12 AM Expired 1 Insulted Other Member(s) Urban Hat€monger ? Meh, close enough.
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