Changes to Rule Enforcement

Key · 05-31-2015, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

So basically we should be quicker to drop the banhammer on longstanding members? That doesn't seem like it would make the place a more pleasant environment.

I have to agree. If this were the way things would work around here, lots of the regulars here would be banned, and the community would just diminish. Stricter moderation is not always a good thing for a forum.

Machine · 05-31-2015, 05:20 PM

Well I ddint know this existed until just now and like Goofle I hate writing a lot to stuff like this so I'll make it short.

I personally see only harm in the proposal and it seems a lot of other memebers agree including the mods who've commented. I absolutely adore this site and would hate to see it change, I've made friends here that I wouldn't have made if it weren't for how this forum is set up. This site is like a family to me and I think a lot of people would agree and though I am a newer member of this family I'm extrmemly happy to be here and talk to these people the way I do. In fact I'd go as far to say if it were like any other forum I'd probably just leave.

Neapolitan · 05-31-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

If a newbie screws up it's worse than if a long time member screws up in the same manner?

Not that it is worse if a new member does it. There is less backlass if a new member (who exhibits obvious trollish behavior) gets banned than one who's been here a while forms friendship and has allegiances kinda like Survival Island.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

50 shades of grey indeed.

New versus old members isn't the 50 shades of grey imo. It's what constitutes "trolling." It is such a catch-all for all kind of behavior, from deliberate starting fights with hot topic threads to replying only with *.gifs to making sarcastic, snarky, stupid, silly, sassy, saucy, smart-alecky or smarty-pants comments.

I can understand dealing with certain members who are really "trolling." I am not for people trolling forum members. But I wonder where the lines are going to be drawn, and who will be on the chopping block.

Since the site is seen too laxed, it can be that way for so long till like a pendulum it will swing the other way, the counter force pulling the pendulum the other way is by members who will ask for it to more heavily moderated, not just moderately moderated. What happens if the pendulum swings to far the other way?

Say a handful of serious members with no sense of humor wants to get rid of any member who has less of a serious side. They will belly ache to the mods until long standing members aren't serious all get the boot. It seems it will spill over from dealing with real trolls who really break the rules to members they don't like personally. That is why I'm not to crazy about Tore recommendation, and hope mods know who is who when it comes to trolling.

Goofle said in plug that 20% of the members should get infractions but don't... something like that. I wonder if that 20% isn't the few that make up 90% of the posts on the board and which 90% of that is non-music related. I hate to think any of those are members I like to plug with.

DwnWthVwls · 05-31-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I have to agree. If this were the way things would work around here, lots of the regulars here would be banned, and the community would just diminish. Stricter moderation is not always a good thing for a forum.

I don't see a problem with that if it makes the forum a better place and attracts more activity. This seems to be the point everyone is latching onto because you're all "friends". Sansa is still around even though she doesn't post, there is always plug.

Trollheart · 05-31-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It is such a catch-all for all kind of behavior, from deliberate starting fights with hot topic threads to replying only with *.gifs to making sarcastic, snarky, stupid, silly, sassy, saucy, smart-alecky or smarty-pants comments.

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Jesus man! Half of that stuff is what you do a lot of (and so do I) and it's kind of the lifeblood of the community here. If we were all super-serious and afraid to say anything for fear of being banned or infracted, there'd be little enjoyment here. To return to my office analogy (though tore does not like it I think it's valid) it would be like those offices where you can't even smile at a member of the opposite sex or ask them how their weekend was without being pulled up by HR! Sod that. I would not want to be part of any environment that promoted, encouraged or fostered that kind of atmosphere.

~~Soulflower~~ · 05-31-2015, 06:43 PM

Bring in new moderators--- check

Enforce the rules---- check

And that will break up the cliques, favoritism and the bully driven mentality of this board

I still would like to know why Sansa was banned because the reasons I have been given don't make any sense.

There are members who have said and done far worse but they are oddly still here.

The Batlord · 05-31-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Jesus man! Half of that stuff is what you do a lot of (and so do I) and it's kind of the lifeblood of the community here. If we were all super-serious and afraid to say anything for fear of being banned or infracted, there'd be little enjoyment here. To return to my office analogy (though tore does not like it I think it's valid) it would be like those offices where you can't even smile at a member of the opposite sex or ask them how their weekend was without being pulled up by HR! Sod that. I would not want to be part of any environment that promoted, encouraged or fostered that kind of atmosphere.

Neapolitan · 05-31-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I don't see a problem with that if it makes the forum a better place and attracts more activity. This seems to be the point everyone is latching onto because you're all "friends". Sansa is still around even though she doesn't post, there is always plug.

She's banned from the site and I am seriously wondering if she should be a part if a plug room associated with MusicBanter. One night she put up a video of her sub or slave or whatever level he was in jumping naked on a bed, not once but twice. I honestly don't care who wants to defend that. I don't want to see that in plug. Whoever that guy is should have some self-respect. And if doesn't have it for himself then I don't think one should not show it to the world that he doesn't.

~~Soulflower~~ · 05-31-2015, 07:00 PM

There have been other members that have posted non music in the plug such as movies, parts of video clips, etc.

So Sansa is not the ONLY one that does it. However, for the most part she plays music so I don't think this is even worth bringing up and if you are going to bring it up as an issue, then call out everybody not JUST her because there are other members that do the same thing.

And you have done some questionable things in the plug yourself...

Neapolitan · 05-31-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

There have been other members that have posted non music in the plug such as movies, parts of video clips, etc.

So Sansa is not the ONLY one that does it. However, for the most part she plays music so I don't think this is even worth bringing up and if you are going to bring it up as an issue, then call out everybody not JUST her because there are other members that do the same thing.

And you have done some questionable things in the plug yourself...

Read what I said carefully... unless someone else posted their subs/slaves in plug, than so far she is the only one. Everything else you said is a red herring.

I think since that room is part of MusicBanter community then certain rules should carry over. And that includes:

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Originally Posted by Music Banter - Announcements in Forum : General Music

posting or linking to any disturbing, obscene, gory or pornographic material is strictly prohibited.

Please, read the Music Banter forum rules.

05-31-2015, 05:20 PM	#172 (permalink)
Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Well I ddint know this existed until just now and like Goofle I hate writing a lot to stuff like this so I'll make it short. I personally see only harm in the proposal and it seems a lot of other memebers agree including the mods who've commented. I absolutely adore this site and would hate to see it change, I've made friends here that I wouldn't have made if it weren't for how this forum is set up. This site is like a family to me and I think a lot of people would agree and though I am a newer member of this family I'm extrmemly happy to be here and talk to these people the way I do. In fact I'd go as far to say if it were like any other forum I'd probably just leave. __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

05-31-2015, 06:43 PM	#176 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Bring in new moderators--- check Enforce the rules---- check And that will break up the cliques, favoritism and the bully driven mentality of this board I still would like to know why Sansa was banned because the reasons I have been given don't make any sense. There are members who have said and done far worse but they are oddly still here.

05-31-2015, 07:00 PM	#179 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	There have been other members that have posted non music in the plug such as movies, parts of video clips, etc. So Sansa is not the ONLY one that does it. However, for the most part she plays music so I don't think this is even worth bringing up and if you are going to bring it up as an issue, then call out everybody not JUST her because there are other members that do the same thing. And you have done some questionable things in the plug yourself...