If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

But in the SYG thread, we were just speaking our mind and talking candidly with each other, which is also known as "spilling our guts". It's off-topic banter in the part of the website that was set up specifically for off-topic banter, and while it had lately become quite silly, it wasn't nearly as offensive and full of spam as everyone is making it out to be.

I have to ask, what's with the end of your post? The "glad you at least swallowed that" part, I mean. I find it rude as hell. It's not like we were arguing with each other, and you finally convinced me of something. If you read my posts in this thread, I've been trying to talk with Urban about what exactly was going on with the owners, while also trying to keep people from throwing insults at each other. My post, even though it quoted you, wasn't directed solely at you when I talked about the surge of finger-pointing that's been going around. I think I've been pretty civil so far, and if you disagree, then please let me know what exactly I've done wrong.

Well with regard to the SYG thread read the OP and see what it was designed for. I've been as guilty as anyone throughout my tenure of going off topic and creating what some would deem spam, but the SYG thread I found to be somewhat constructive at one point.

I'm not much for arguing with people in general, some might disagree. I wasn't trying to convince anybody of anything just conveying my point. I didn't really think saying swallowing something was negative, I think we agreed on the finger pointing that was my point. I try to avoid insulting people also, and I don't really think i've done so. If you feel that way then I apologize to ya. I'm not inclined to insult people, I like to keep a semblance of respect for everyone.

[Oriphiel]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I'm not much for arguing with people in general, some might disagree. I wasn't trying to convince anybody of anything just conveying my point. I didn't really think saying swallowing something was negative, I think we agreed on the finger pointing that was my point. I try to avoid insulting people also, and I don't really think i've done so. If you feel that way then I apologize to ya. I'm not inclined to insult people, I like to keep a semblance of respect for everyone.

I'm sorry if I overreacted a bit. And I appreciate the apology by the way, that was a really nice thing to say.

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Trollheart read what I did and took it the same way I did.

Doesn't mean we lied

Fair enough. I mean, like we both agreed, I've never even met Yac, so you'd know him/her far better than I do. If you think that you're taking the best course of action, that's something only you can really decide. I just didn't like the way that the announcement was worded, because I felt kind of deceived.

Also, Soulflower, I think you're a pretty interesting person with a great taste in music, but I also think that you might have a bit of a vendetta with Urban. I know he can come off as if he's a bit cruel and doesn't really give a damn, but in my experience that's just not the way he is. I've definitely made my share of inflammatory posts, and with the way that I sometimes aggravate discussions into arguments, Urban could easily have just deleted my posts or banned me and been done with it. But instead, he always lets people speak their mind without censoring them, and only intervenes as a last resort. Think about it; instead of just blocking your posts, he's actually letting you criticize him as you see fit, and he's responding to you as well. Most mods on most other websites wouldn't bother to do that, so maybe Urban has more respect for you than you realize.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Shush
It's kept posting in the lounge to a bare minimum

Ah. Good plan, Batman.

And yet, Soulflower continues to ignore my posts. Why am I not surprised?

FWIW my opinion is this: the SYG thread was made to talk about what you thought about other members, good or bad. It was NOT made for a (purely hypothetical, I can't recall all the posts) ten-post discussion on a movie, or six posts about how someone feels they should play such a game, or even the weather. The current SYG took the phrase off-topic to new heights (or lows, if you prefer). Add in the namecalling and insults and you had a thread that had veered sharply off-course from its original intent. Urban attempted to address this by closing the thread with a warning that it would not be reinstated until someone had something of value to post. Someone did (Ki I think) and it reopened. Almost immediately, the crap began again so he closed it (supposedly) permanently. Now it's in moderation, which is where it should really have stayed.

I'm unclear (why am I asking as she won't reply but anyway) as to what Soulflower thinks Urban could have done more? Is hand-holding an issue here? Can people not think for themselves? You know what: I've asked this before and got ignored so I won't bother. But I think if people are posting inappropriate things then the blame lies with them, not the mods. You have to take responsibility for what you post, we all do, and while I may sometimes go a little over the top I always realise it, apologise and correct that behaviour.

I don't whine "Urban should have stopped me doing that!" which appears to be the message Soulflower is trying to preach. Why, I do not know, as it has no basis in reality. It seems to be like those people who moan "I'm not to blame: society is." Yeah.