If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[Oriphiel]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

If you don't want to make an effort then don't.

You've been here for a cup of coffee and now you're telling me how things are with a guy I've worked alongside for almost a decade?

There's been plenty of times when I've been asked to do stuff, gone to the mod forum to seek clarification only to be told it's not really an issue or we'll watch how things go for now or we'll act upon it. It makes no difference to me, that's my job here.

Like I said this is the first time the guy has ever suggested how we moderate anything, in 7 or 8 years. And like I said when he did that I took it seriously. He isn't my boss, he's the only contact we have with the owners.

You don't think that it's a very real possibility that they could pull the plug on this place?
It's already their least profitable forum, they would be totally justified in shutting it completely especially if people just gave up and place just became a shithole. So I apologise if you felt the first post was too strongly worded but I'm not going to apologise for the intention behind it.

Fair enough. You're right, i'm new here, and I really don't know your relationship with the owners and the other moderators. All I can do is go by what you tell me, and so far all you've told me is that you went to Yac for advice and he gave you the only kind of advice that someone in his position possibly could. To paraphrase, you asked him if the lounge could use improvement, and he said "Yeah, I guess it could", which is what a boss is always inevitably going to say. You can't blame me for being kind of mad when you cited this "advice" of his as orders from the owners, which is kind of a really disrespectful thing to do to us. If you personally have a problem with the way things are, and you have Yac's approval to clean things up, all you have to do is say so. You can trust us to listen to you, because you're a good guy and we respect you. Just express what you have a problem with, instead of playing things up to try and shock us into being good, as if we're children that won't play nice unless we think that the owner's are actively trying to punish us.

I'm sorry if i'm just making things worse, and honestly you can feel free to not respond to my post since we'll probably just be going back and forth, I just wanted to put that out there and get it off my chest. I'm just kind of mad that it took Soulflower probing into your vague choice of words to get you to give us the whole story, instead of you just trusting us and being upfront with us from the get go. I'll try to be less of a troll from now on, but i'm not going to do it because i'm afraid that the owners are going to swoop down and smash me with a Mjolnir-esque banhammer. I'll do it because I respect you and understand the frustration that your job entails, and because it's legitimately the right thing to do at the moment to clean things up for the next few weeks to off-set all of the hate and spamming that's been going around lately.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

No one should not have to stroke your eagle.

Keep your hands off my eagle!!

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

I'd like to agree, but what you've said is tantamount to slandering Right-Track and Mojo. Nobody ever modded like those guys.

I think you misunderstood, as it was qualified by "I don't know what goes on with them behind the scenes." He was just saying of those who work and are active now, this is what I think". I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Well I know this is the best I am going to get from you especially when you pretty much showed me on more than one occasion that you don't care about this forum. You foolishly blame others instead of maturely pointing out errors on your part and things you can do as a moderator to improve it.

And what have you done to improve the forum, other than whine and bitch?

I have not disrespected you at all in this thread

Saying someone has failed in their job is not disrespecting them?

Actually, I don't know why I'm bothering: you have completely ignored any of my posts directed at you, while at the same time ranting on about people ignoring you. Is there an echo in here?

Apart from anything else, why is everyone talking to/at Urban like he's the only mod here? There is a team: if you want to blame one, blame them all. Not as if there's anything to be blamed for.

And Orph, with what very very little I know of Yac, I would have taken "food for thought?" as "better do something about it or we may have to take this further". I think we should trust Urban to know Yac better than we do, and not to make suppositions we can't possibly justify.

[Chula Vista]

The past few days around here have been the absolute weirdest in the ~5 or so months that I've been here. How long before it gets back to the fun loving place (sans all of the bitching) it use to be?

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

with what very very little I know of Yac, I would have taken "food for thought?" as "better do something about it or we may have to take this further". I think we should trust Urban to know Yac better than we do, and not to make suppositions we can't possibly justify.

Trollheart read what I did and took it the same way I did.

Doesn't mean we lied