If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Yes, some of the members here are over the top but YOU can change this forum around too, YOU play an essential role too. Its immature to blame all the members and not take any responsibility especially when you are the veteran head moderator of this forum.

Are you kiddin me?

You know it's funny but I always felt I was very fair to you. When people were calling you a troll or would cross the line with you they were always asked to stop whether it be publicly or privately and told if they had a problem with you personally not to enter debate with you. I overlooked some of your more arrogant traits because I felt you were an asset to the music forums and I don't have a problem with people with strong opinions posting in them. The problem seems to be when you were confronted with people with equally strong opinions you don't seem to be able to take it.
I was always civil to you, if I ever dismissed anything you said I always gave reasons as to why I disagreed with you. I don't really see what else I can do. If you have a problem with the way I debate things then don't do it and find someone else.

And this whole thing isn't about finger pointing it's about people looking at themselves and trying to improve and you can't tell me you're entirely blameless either.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

You know it's funny but I always felt I was very fair to you. When people were calling you a troll or would cross the line with you they were always asked to stop whether it be publicly or privately and told if they had a problem with you personally not to enter debate with you. I overlooked some of your more arrogant traits because I felt you were an asset to the music forums and I don't have a problem with people with strong opinions posting in them. The problem seems to be when you were confronted with people with equally strong opinions you don't seem to be able to take it.
I was always civil to you, if I ever dismissed anything you said I always gave reasons as to why I disagreed with you. I don't really see what else I can do. If you have a problem with the way I debate things then don't do it and find someone else.

And this whole thing isn't about finger pointing it's about people looking at themselves and trying to improve and you can't tell me you're entirely blameless either.

What's sad is you have not once maturely expressed your shortcomings as a moderator and how you are going to improve the forum as a moderator.

So far you have made it very clear that you are above criticism and your arrogance has blinded you of your failure to successful moderate this forum.

Again, I don't have to prove anything to you anymore because obviously the OWNER of this forum feels the same way about this forum as I do.

In other words, you have been put on notice and you know you have otherwise you would not have made this thread.

I am just trying to get you to understand that its not JUST the members and you play an essential role too as far as why this forum is the way it is. It would be immature to blame every one else and not take no type of responsibility yourself.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

What's sad is you have not once maturely expressed your shortcomings as a moderator and how you are going to improve the forum as a moderator.

So far you have made it very clear that you are above criticism and your arrogance has blinded you of your failure to successful moderate this forum.

Again, I don't have to prove anything to you anymore because obviously the OWNER of this forum feels the same way about this forum as I do.

In other words, you have been put on notice and you know you have otherwise you would not have made this thread.

I am just trying to get you to understand that its not JUST the members and you play an essential role too as far as why this forum is the way it is. It would be immature to blame every one else and not take no type of responsibility yourself.

Did you even read the first post of this thread?

The whole point if this is asking EVERYBODY to try and show a bit of restraint so we don't have to start throwing down draconian laws down that nobody wants and banning people. This isn't moderators vs members, this is members full stop as in everybody, me, you, that guy who posts all those K pop videos.... everybody.

Again I ask you, what would you like me to do? anybody who went over the line with you was asked not to do it and action was taken, I was always civil to you. I'm not saying I'm perfect here but I'm beginning to think putting a saint in charge of the forum still wouldn't satisfy you.

And we have not been 'Put on notice' by the owners. I asked the question if things were becoming too much in the Lounge and was told it might be a good time to tighten things up a bit given that we're allowed to be a bit looser than their other forums. It's worked that way for 10 years, there's no harm in ensuring people are reminded about the situation.

Nobody is asking anybody to be whiter than white here, just making an effort to calm things down. As in not sending so many threads off topic with stuff that could just as easily be said in the shoutbox, or being quick to label people pointlessly.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Did you even read the first post of this thread?

The whole point if this is asking EVERYBODY to try and show a bit of restraint so we don't have to start throwing down draconian laws down that nobody wants and banning people. This isn't moderators vs members, this is members full stop as in everybody, me, you, that guy who posts all those K pop videos.... everybody.

Again I ask you, what would you like me to do? anybody who went over the line with you was asked not to do it and action was taken, I was always civil to you. I'm not saying I'm perfect here but I'm beginning to think putting a saint in charge of the forum still wouldn't satisfy you.

And we have not been 'Put on notice' by the owners. I asked the question if things were becoming too much in the Lounge and was told it might be a good time to tighten things up a bit given that we're allowed to be a bit looser than their other forums. It's worked that way for 10 years, there's no harm in ensuring people are reminded about the situation.

Nobody is asking anybody to be whiter than white here, just making an effort to calm things down. As in not sending so many threads off topic with stuff that could just as easily be said in the shoutbox, or being quick to label people pointlessly.

Your right, this isn't a members versus moderator debate nor did I imply it so don't make it into one. This is about YOU. This is me simply responding to a post in which you pointed the finger at all the members and did not reflect on any of your own short comings as a moderator. You made it appear as if you were put on notice in your first post, no where do you imply you "personally inquired" about anything and if that is the case you should have said that instead of perpetuating the opposite.

If that is the case, why did you delete the SYG thread? Your "new story" reeks of bs to be honest.

If this is not what you intended than you should have clarified that because your first post comes off arrogant. Every time I or anyone disagrees with you you throw a tantrum like its against the law to disagree with you. Like your status on this forum anoints you as the most high and nobody can disagree with anything you say.


Again, I ask what can YOU do to improve this forum and be a better moderator. I notice you are still deflecting that question and trying to fit "everybody" in the question. This is not everybody. This is about YOU.

Why is it so hard for you to answer this question?

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Again, I don't have to prove anything to you anymore because obviously the OWNER of this forum feels the same way about this forum as I do.

How could you possibly know this when the mods never posted the conversation?