If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[DwnWthVwls]

Pretty sure she just wants you to say you have been involved in some of the bullsh*t you've now been asked to mod more closely. I don't disagree with that but you are hardly one of the primary offenders.

[Key]

Honestly, with how agitated Soulflower is getting, I haven't seen Urban step out of line in any of his responses. He's been thorough and respectful. That says more than anything if you want to think about it that way.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Ki

Honestly, with how agitated Soulflower is getting, I haven't seen Urban step out of line in any of his responses. He's been thorough and respectful. That says more than anything if you want to think about it that way.

Meow off.

[Key]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Meow off.

I'm just being nice. This is why I can't take you out anywhere.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

If you want the full story I'll give it to you.

In the past month or so I have been receiving complaints from members that they felt that something needed to be done about what was being posted in the Lounge.
After the debacle that happened in the SYG thread where there were 20 pages of bickering I closed it down for a couple of days. I re-opned it and people just carried on with the bickering like nothing had happened.

I asked a question in the mod forum based on these factors if it was time to do something about this where Yac posted his reply to me which I posted earlier that it was maybe time something was done about it, then I closed the SYG thread and started this thread.

Then a few hours later Vanilla re-opned that thread under approved post conditions and asked if anyone minded it being re-opned. We then had a vote in the mod forum which is still ongoing about getting rid of that thread for good, Currently it's at 3 to 1 votes to close it for good.

That's exactly what happened, this is not me issuing a personal vendetta or me wanting to get my own way. This is about me acting as a moderator and trying to do something about things when I'm asked to. Something I believe you want me to do. You can't complain that I don't act and then when I do act on an issue complain when I do. That's just being contrary for the sake of it.

Fair enough.

But why did you post what you did in the first post?

It had to take me calling you out for you to clarify this.

This post right here should have been your first post.

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I'm not deflecting anything I want to know what it is I seem to be doing thats so wrong in your eyes.

All I can see is you interpret my posts a certain way which from what I can see is more on you than me. You seem to think I disregard your posts. If that were true I wouldn't respond to them in the first place.

I feel like you disregard my post because when I ask a question you do disregard them.

I sat here and have asked you at least 4 times now to discuss how you can improve this forum as a moderator but you oddly have not answered BUT you want me to answer your question though. (this is an example of you disregarding my posts and my feelings)

Like I have said many times in the past, I don't have a problem with you but for some reason you disregard my posts like they are nothing as well my opinions. I am not sure why that is when I take the time to answer your questions and really read your post and understand your perspectives ( as I would want anyone to do my own). I don't get that same respect from you. All I get is arrogance, superiority and immaturity.



I will not be patronized or dictated. My questions and opinions need to be considered as well not just YOURS.


It is a pretty simple question that you are dragging and making into a big deal by not answering it.

I wonder if it is because you are afraid to answer because it puts your flaws on display for all to see?

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

I sat here and have asked you at least 4 times now to discuss how you can improve this forum as a moderator but you oddly have not answered BUT you want me to answer your question though. (this is an example of you disregarding my posts and my feelings)

I can think of a few ways Urban can improve this forum as a moderator:

• He can clean up spam so users don't have to dig through a bunch of it to get to the things they want.
• He can enforce the rules to help make sure the site isn't shut down due to complaints from the owners or google.
• He can approve avatars and new posts for people to make their experience here better.
• He can take care of disruptive posters so that no one else has to.

Interestingly, these are all things I already see him doing.

So what are you doing to improve the forum?

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I wasn't ignoring your question I was trying to get you to clarify what it was you thought I was doing wrong so I could give you a proper answer. How can I improve if you don't tell me my faults?

If you feel my first post was too strongly worded then good, that was what I was aiming for. I've been at this place a long time. I was here when the current owners took over and I am well aware of what the situation is in regards to our position with all the companies other forums maybe more so than some of the other mods who weren't here at the time. I was one of the ones who tried to convince them to let this place be somewhere where people could be free to express themselves and install things like the journals and encourage people to write things along with the other mods at the time like right-track, ethan, jackhammer, big 3 and others rather than be just another corporate website. That's the reason why I talk about forum standards and act by closing a thread sometimes when maybe some other mods will let things go. I know the hard work me and those people and others who came along later like Jansz, Ped & Tore put into this place and I don't want that hard work to go to waste

I didn't write that first post out of arrogance and I wasn't deceiving anybody. I wrote it out of knowing the situation and the history of this place, people saying to me 'please do something about this' and knowing what would happen if this place got any worse.

As for my faults, well I know I can be a bit short sometimes but then a lot of that is born out of frustration when people are asked to do something politely and just ignore it, only for them to complain when something more harsh is done. And maybe I could hold my tongue when I find someone being annoying.

I don't see anything wrong with how I debate with you or anyone else, it's funny but I could just as easily say the same things of you as you do of me. I'm stubborn, you're stubborn, But I've never made any secret of it that I like it that you're here posting. Your leaving genuinely surprised me because I was enjoying our debate and thought you were too.

I've never ever turned away any question PMed to me even if Trollheart paints me as some Ogre you and anybody else is welcome to PM me at any time if they ever want anything and I wish more people would, I would much rather be solving peoples problems like that than having to make threads like this.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Trollheart paints me as some Ogre

Which is kind of ironic when you think about it.

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Since a thread of mine has been specifically mentioned I'd like to point out that I started it at 10:40 AM and requested that the mods kill it about an hour later at 11:43 AM.

And I've mentioned several times since - I screwed up. I apologize.

(with all of the crap that goes on around here it's a bit weird that a thread started 3 months ago that stayed open such a short period of time gets singled out)

Poncy Hairdresser.You sound like a whiny geezer right now.Dude you yourself addmitted it was classless and a mite degrading to your child.I dont see the problem with me reiterating comnon knowledge. I think you know me well enough to know if I want to jump your **** I will.You sound like a chronic victim.

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I can think of a few ways Urban can improve this forum as a moderator:

• He can clean up spam so users don't have to dig through a bunch of it to get to the things they want.
• He can enforce the rules to help make sure the site isn't shut down due to complaints from the owners or google.
• He can approve avatars and new posts for people to make their experience here better.
• He can take care of disruptive posters so that no else has to

Interestingly, these are all things I already see him doing.

So what are you doing to improve the forum?

I try to improve my community Janszy. This my home man and some of you are my family. I dont **** where I eat.