Missing Posters Bulletin Board

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Also what Frown points out about CRISPR etc. relates to what I'm nitpicking about: it's considering the issues and trauma that many trans people face as all being an inherent biological condition/state of confusion that needs treatment, and focus on these kind of biological treaments to easily erase all of those issues. It neglects how much of those issues are not a biological condition but due to society being ****ed up

It doesn't necessarily have to be a biological condition, It seems psychological to me.

If you were gonna make specific claims like it's a genetic defect etc then that would be a strictly biological claim that would need to be substantiated using biology. But i see that as sorta irrelevant to the broader conversation anyway cause let's say it's caused by genetics or by hormones in the womb etc. Unless you had a way to somehow prevent that from happening before it did, that doesn't change anything.

[WWWP]

Would you top yourself?

Or would you be topped by yourself?

[jwb]

Stop stealing my questions. Id def try both though.

[The Batlord]

Crypto fascists talking about genetics being the final solution to the trans question sure makes me feel comfortable.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Ant's like: "I just post into the ether with conveniently disruptive contrarianism in conversations before spending a great deal of time explaining the details of what I'm saying. What even are words? Words can't fully carry the weight of thought, cannot define a man to his core. What kind of ridiculous notion is it to say that words said in a way that consistently sends a particular message can have meaning when meaning is purely in the mind? Does human action not occur within the plane of what we experience? And if we cannot be allowed to experience all possibilities of what can occur in that plane, are we not robbed of our freedoms in a way that destroys the possibility for the mind to emerge? Surely you do not want to completely eliminate the human capability for thought, no?"

And he probably expects everyone to say: "wow no I want humans to think. Here's a lot of reasons why" then dance away from the starting point of the conversation like it never happened.

But instead everyone's like: nah bro you're still transphobic because of what you said lol

A certain somebody who tried to strawman me over the word "condition" doesn't strike me as particularly clever here.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Crypto fascists talking about genetics being the final solution to the trans question sure makes me feel comfortable.

Dude, nobody's going to force you to become a woman to keep your job. Relax.

Originally Posted by jwb

It doesn't necessarily have to be a biological condition, It seems psychological to me.

If you were gonna make specific claims like it's a genetic defect etc then that would be a strictly biological claim that would need to be substantiated using biology. But i see that as sorta irrelevant to the broader conversation anyway cause let's say it's caused by genetics or by hormones in the womb etc. Unless you had a way to somehow prevent that from happening before it did, that doesn't change anything.

Pretty sure it would be described as a physiological state of some kind. And you can't do anything about womb conditions. Assuming super tailored gene therapy is super affordable in the future, they'll probably check in to their local CVS and walk out as exactly what they want to be.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Crypto fascists talking about genetics being the final solution to the trans question sure makes me feel comfortable.

is a crypto fascist just a Nazi that invested in Bitcoin?

In that case i have a friend who is a huge cryptofascist

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Anteater

A certain somebody who tried to strawman me over the word "condition" doesn't strike me as particularly clever here.

Damn you owned me so hard that I almost forgot that you called trans people genetically inferior.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Damn you owned me so hard that I almost forgot that you called trans people genetically inferior.

I called myself genetically inferior actually if you really want to be a big crybaby about it.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I called myself genetically inferior actually if you really want to be a big crybaby about it.

Oh good that makes up for spouting longstanding transphobic talking points that dehumanize a whole people in favour of the norm that you happen to align with.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh good that makes up for spouting longstanding transphobic talking points that dehumanize a whole people in favour of the norm that you happen to align with.

Lol you have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody was dehumanized in this conversation or told that they can't exist, have rights, etc. etc. I'm saying that you undermined yourself in your blithering attempt to strawman me. Not a good look bro.