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Old 05-01-2021, 08:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't use the phrase free will and view choice and consciousness as terms to describe aspects of reaction to stimuli. You're just mad that language exists lmao.
Well then what are you describing? You're doing a whole lot of bull**** to justify not believing in predestination while also describing.believing in predestination.

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Like, literally, I'm giving an actual argument and you're just talking **** with no real argument.

"That sounds like magic"

So does existing in general. It's not magic, it's purely biological.

"You just want to believe it to feel self important and flowery and poetic."

I don't, arm chair psychologist. It doesn't sound flowery or poetic to me because I understand it. You can argue that thinking things are predetermined and that you were born to flip burgers sounds magical, poetic and self important too.

But notice how that's not an actual argument for or against free will and is just a deflection?
If you.think that what I'm describing is just describing what is likely to occur because my life says I'm most likely to live a life like what I've already lived then you're a moron. You're just describing being a moron.
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