Now you're just trolling.

Lets assume you're a moderator, let me ask you a question.

Would you ban a dozen members the forum of people that actually contribute to the site and who are usually easy going, friendly & no trouble for reacting to something they've become more & more frustrated with over the past week, or would you get rid of the one person who doesn't contribute, who has openly said they have no intention of doing so who is causing them to act in that way?

Think carefully

That is false dichotomy and distorted. There's no need to ban anyone and nobody is a total non-contributor, but of the people who are clearly acting against site rules, some of their posting histories would indicate that they have acted out against other members elsewhere on the site. I said before that banning me would not help the site at all, and any impact would be negative through loss of music posts and alienation of people who agree with me. And there's no acknowledgement that I have a right to be frustrated when we (atmosphere-change proponents) keep making reasonable suggestions that aren't even considered.

You do have a right to be frustrated, as do the members who have become frustrated with you derailing the thread you were derailing. Now everybody can be happy.

I find it interesting (and annoying) that you go on about people ignoring facts yet you have very conveniently completely ignored my post challenging your assertion that journals are read by only a "few" people. I've given you evidence of over 100,000 views in my own, plus thousands in my others and more than ten thousand in other journals by other people, with decent conversations being held, yet you have no answer to that.

Can you not at least admit that a) that was a completely offhand and not researched comment and b) it was completely wrong? Do you, or have you, ever even read anyone's journal, or are you just, as usual, making a massive, unsupported assumption and then ignoring the fact that it's wrong because it doesn't fit in with the way you want things to be? Can you not accept you've made a grevious error in judgement here? This only refers to the journals, which I sort of see as my child, given how much time I spend on mine and the encouragement I give to others, but it's sort of indicative of your whole mindset: you shout and scream about the things you don't like but then can't admit you're wrong about things you ARE wrong about, and are not prepared to try to help or foster change without adding your own "rider" onto that.

If anyone's guilty of causing, and maintaining, a level of drama we've not seen in some time, here's a mirror.

Trolls don't care about facts, they spit in the face of facts and make up their own to keep people agitated.

Still can't believe this guy is still going after all this time. I shouldn't even contribute to this thread.

I don't understand where you are getting this from. We managed, thanks to Duga to improve the site in order to get more members positively posting on the music forums. It actually worked. I feel closer to members like Arya Stark and Rez because of this and I'm very happy!

Why are you always being so negative? Mods try to do their best from an unpaying job and we have rules in places to sort out people that don't contribute in the right manner. Many would love to say that what you do is trolling. Have you ever been a happy person? Because your posts are always so negative and focused on bringing down the people who are mods. You might have noticed that many people appreciate what moderaters do a good job and are lenient towards establish members as we give them an opportunity to make up for past mistakes.

I want you to try being more positive, as positivity spreads when everyone speaks politely. If you actually get off your ass and do something that contributes to the board musically I will feel like you are making a contribution. If you continue this consistently negative behaviour you may find you will be on our naughty member santa list.

Sopsych is like a broken down robot, that just keeps repeating the same thing again and again. I don't think I've ever come across another member on this site or any site, who's been given the answer to his question from so many different people and still seems totally baffled by it all. I fully expect Sopsych to be asking the same question for the next millennia, unless he short circuits by then.

I wanted to look at the numbers first, since they didn't make sense. They still don't make much sense, though the sheer age of some of those journal threads automatically give them many views (search engine robots included). I do not know how many people currently post to that section - mods could more easily research that than I could - but it ought to be less than the number in General Music. ("Ought to" because Journals are inherently clique-oriented.) I'm going to make another assertion - that Journals have virtually no impact on whether new members became regular contributors to the site. (Lots of people patting themselves on the back for something that in practice doesn't address the gist of Duga's complaint.)

So, I'm wrong about a very minor point that's hardly related to site atmosphere, and you want a medal? How many people have joined this week, been turned off by the types of discussion they've seen, and probably never will return?

Well, okay, on a positive note, some nasty posts were deleted from this thread.

A lot of posts are made in the journal section each day. I'm always approving good quality journal posts whenever I open the queue. All those posts are from a variety of members as well, not just the ones who have journals themselves.