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Old 08-15-2013, 04:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I see what the previous posters mean about banging their heads against the wall with you. You want the forum to change and just expect others to change it for you. Try taking the initiative yourself and inject some life into the parts of the forum that interest you and btw you don't have to be a moderator to do so either.

I mentioned to you before, how the journals section of this forum is full of life and that's largely thanks to Trollheart. How about somebody called Sopsych doing the same thing on General Music or any other area of the forum that interests you, instead of constantly whining on here about getting things changed.
You should take big3s advice and ignore him.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ban me for disagreeing with the clique? Brilliant.

I've said many, many times that I'm not going to put time and effort into making threads that are likely to get me attacked and reduce incentive from moderators to change the site's atmosphere. No matter how many threads senior members make, new or sensitive people (mostly women, I suppose) are unlikely to participate enough given the level of meanness on MB. Nobody can force me to start threads, just like you can't purely wish activity from people outside the clique.

I regularly view just a few sub-forums here. The Pop section doesn't seem more active. Not sure about Rock, which is more important. General Music possibly is the most important part of the site, the part making the biggest impression on members who aren't already dedicated to Music Banter - and as I said, it's not improving.
There are women here who have participated in the "meanness" and "cliques" and all that. It's not just the men doing it.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You should take big3s advice and ignore him.
I'm not sure if he's actually a troll, or somebody that's used to having his hand held when making decisions in life, if the latter then subtle encouragement is certainly needed here.

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There are women here who have participated in the "meanness" and "cliques" and all that. It's not just the men doing it.
There was no need to say that, as it's usually the women who are involved in this type of stuff anyway. Women with women normally means trouble
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if he's actually a troll, or somebody that's used to having his hand held when making decisions in life, if the latter then subtle encouragement is certainly needed here.

I am not sure either, he/she has put a LOT of effort into trolling for no reason if that is the case. Although unless he/she does something about it I dont see why we should even discuss it with him any further.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I am not sure either, he/she has put a LOT of effort into trolling for no reason if that is the case. Although unless he/she does something about it I dont see why we should even discuss it with him any further.
Nearly all his/her recent posts have been on this thread, the only other recent posts that are there on a regular basis are the Madonna Vs Lady GaGa and the Nickelback Vs Justin Beiber threads Says it all really.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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People don't seem to want to think. I already indicated that, besides reducing incentive for policy change, my threads are likely to receive too much negative attention under the current atmosphere. How would that help? More fighting will not revive the forum. Journals, whatever, few people read them and they're unlikely to cause controversy even among quick-tempered members. The sensible plan would be to improve the atmosphere first and then increase traffic with interesting threads by people like me.
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People don't seem to want to think. I already indicated that, besides reducing incentive for policy change, my threads are likely to receive too much negative attention under the current atmosphere. How would that help? More fighting will not revive the forum. Journals, whatever, few people read them and they're unlikely to cause controversy even among quick-tempered members. The sensible plan would be to improve the atmosphere first and then increase traffic with interesting threads by people like me.
Why not start your interesting threads first to help get things started, instead of bitching about a lack of interesting.

You draw the negative attention directed at you, by yourself. People don't like your attitude. If it's impossible for you to see the more positive aspects of this website, maybe it's time to move elsewhere.
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People don't seem to want to think. I already indicated that, besides reducing incentive for policy change, my threads are likely to receive too much negative attention under the current atmosphere. How would that help? More fighting will not revive the forum. Journals, whatever, few people read them and they're unlikely to cause controversy even among quick-tempered members. The sensible plan would be to improve the atmosphere first and then increase traffic with interesting threads by people like me.
The atmosphere is fine...stop being lazy and take action, do something/create something that helps change the forum. I just started a music trade thread, BD mods...why dont you do your part and maybe magically this negative atmosphere would dissapear.
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People shooting the messenger and ignoring tons of evidence instead of admitting the problem.

I hardly see any positive side. Why are my posts concentrated in complaint threads and a few stupid-seeming music discussion threads that haters cite against me? Because most topics aren't good (or are too obscure, a minor distinction), and when I do reply somewhere, it's like posting into thin air. People on this site seem more interested in replying to their friends or attacking anything they disagree with than making enjoyable music discussion. It's a point others have stated in this thread. Even many people who create threads seem to selectively reply within their threads.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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People don't seem to want to think. I already indicated that, besides reducing incentive for policy change, my threads are likely to receive too much negative attention under the current atmosphere. How would that help? More fighting will not revive the forum. Journals, whatever, few people read them and they're unlikely to cause controversy even among quick-tempered members. The sensible plan would be to improve the atmosphere first and then increase traffic with interesting threads by people like me.
Um, excuse me? One hundred and twelve thousand views, and that without any real promotion by me. Other journals have well in the five figures too. So much for your offhand and unreasoned comment.
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