Guybrush

GB, I think you're too emotionally involved in this to see that I am talking about principles here. I am asking you to see the consequences of your own actions and own up to them. If I had used some other example that didn't involve your nemesis, perhaps you would've seen some sense in it, but I think your anger blinds you at the moment.

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Nietzche didn't understand human morality.

I don't understand it. I see a lot of people derailing the thread. Some do so by breaking the site rules. Why should I consider Sop the only one responsible for all those derailing, trolly posts? Are we no longer accountable for our own actions?

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GuitarBizarre

And neither has anyone else before or since, including you - You cannot possibly believe that you have the answers to getting us all to get along with sopsych. Enough people are so vehemently pissed off with him, for reasons good, bad, and in between, that it cannot possibly be your belief that his integration with the forum community is a reconcilable thing.

Stop dealing with some bull**** moral approach, and take a practical view - Can sopsych continue to contribute in any worthwhile way, to this discussion, or any other, in the foreseeable future, if his attitude does not either undergo a drastic change, or he is removed as a factor in those discussions?

I do not believe he can.

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I will answer, but just read this first. What I want is a community in which threads don't get out of hand with hostilities. I want a community where moderators are the ones who deal with disruptions, not members. I want a community where people see that acting riled up and angry only adds to the drama. I want a community where, if people choose to break rules, they do so accepting that they may get moderated for doing so. I want a forum where people take responsibility in making this an enjoyable place for all of us.

I'm not saying I want a community where everyone agrees, but where even if you strongly disagree with someone, you do so in an orderly fashion () with the rules of the forum in mind. I do want more high road kind of thinking.

Just thinking out loud now. I know this probably sounds like a boring, impossible utopia to most.

As the community is now, I don't think Sopsych can continue to post as he does without stirring hostilities against him. I don't hold him personally responsible for the fact that his posts will generate anger in others if he's not doing that with intent, but from a practical point of view, his presence is a disturbance, like a crow in a hen house.

It puts the moderators in a pickle I do not wish on them. Sometimes, all your alternatives may seem like bad choices.

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