We've got a major problem...

Blarobbarg · 08-07-2013, 06:55 PM

I really don't know what has to be done to clean up the forum. It has devolved into an angry, tribal society where if you're not part of their little tribe then you won't be accepted. As the majority of those before me have stated, the politics section is what really fans the flames. I'm not so sure that more policing will fix the problem, but it's worth a shot. I don't want to turn MB into a police state where open discussion is impossible, but at this point, I'm willing to try anything. Urban, I'm for deleting posts that criticize others during the Lounge discussions. Do what you need to do.

djchameleon · 08-07-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blarobbarg

I don't want to turn MB into a police state where open discussion is impossible, but at this point, I'm willing to try anything.

Yeah but you aren't having an open discussion when you are attacking someone or their beliefs. You should be talking about the topic at hand and yes I know I'm guilty of doing exactly what I'm talking about but I will refrain from doing so in the future.

Trollheart · 08-07-2013, 07:12 PM

I think DJ's last post is probably one of the most honest and actually bravest in this thread, and I think we should all --- me included goes without saying --- undertake to follow his example. We've all --- all --- been guilty of contributing to or in some cases starting, maybe maintaining the fires and I think now is a good time for us all to throw down the gasoline cans and try to join the fire brigade. If we all recognise that, rather than blame others --- or "everyone but me" --- on these incidents, and accept that we all have had a role to play in every situation --- unless we actually weren't involved in the discussion at all --- this could have been something as simple or esoteric as calming someone down rather than bait them, be the voice of reason --- (yes there are a lot of triple hyphens in this sentence, aren't there?) we can all do our bit to help, then perhaps, just perhaps, we can turn this thing around.

Remember, although there's no smoke without fire, fire can't exist in a vacuum and if we provide that vacuum by refusing to be drawn into petty arguments --- a drama vacuum, if you like (yeah I'm aware I just used another triple hyphen!) then maybe the drama, like a fire without oxygen, might just gutter and go out.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-07-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I remember when the idea for the political forum in the lounge was raised, I was totally against the idea because I'd seen the kind of sh*tstorms that came with them at other places.

I've seen a few forums with a much older demographic than this one totally ban political discussions because of all the resulting fall out that came from them. If mature adults can't handle those types of discussions I'm hardly surprised they affect this forum so much.

Criticising someones favourite band is one thing, but when you start criticising peoples lifestyles, political leanings & start labelling people without actually directly insulting them it's difficult for us mods to know where to draw the line.

Yes you're totally right about this.

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

We're not anti-conversation, we're anti-arguments, drama, name calling, and insults that happen in the Lounge, more specifically in the Current Events section.

I am definitely down for no more drama.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I think DJ's last post is probably one of the most honest and actually bravest in this thread, and I think we should all --- me included goes without saying --- undertake to follow his example. We've all --- all --- been guilty of contributing to or in some cases starting, maybe maintaining the fires and I think now is a good time for us all to throw down the gasoline cans and try to join the fire brigade. If we all recognise that, rather than blame others --- or "everyone but me" --- on these incidents, and accept that we all have had a role to play in every situation --- unless we actually weren't involved in the discussion at all --- this could have been something as simple or esoteric as calming someone down rather than bait them, be the voice of reason --- (yes there are a lot of triple hyphens in this sentence, aren't there?) we can all do our bit to help, then perhaps, just perhaps, we can turn this thing around.

Remember, although there's no smoke without fire, fire can't exist in a vacuum and if we provide that vacuum by refusing to be drawn into petty arguments --- a drama vacuum, if you like (yeah I'm aware I just used another triple hyphen!) then maybe the drama, like a fire without oxygen, might just gutter and go out.

Trollheart I'm impressed that you have opened up like this because I am also one who's been involved with drama in the past. I think if all parties got together and discussed the situation causing the deep rooted conflict then maybe things could really change.

08-07-2013, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blarobbarg Do good. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 2,065	I really don't know what has to be done to clean up the forum. It has devolved into an angry, tribal society where if you're not part of their little tribe then you won't be accepted. As the majority of those before me have stated, the politics section is what really fans the flames. I'm not so sure that more policing will fix the problem, but it's worth a shot. I don't want to turn MB into a police state where open discussion is impossible, but at this point, I'm willing to try anything. Urban, I'm for deleting posts that criticize others during the Lounge discussions. Do what you need to do. __________________ https://rateyourmusic.com/~Blarobbarg ｡･::･ﾟ★,｡･::･ﾟ☆　^my RYM^　｡･::･ﾟ★,｡･::･ﾟ☆ (◠‿◠✿)

08-07-2013, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I think DJ's last post is probably one of the most honest and actually bravest in this thread, and I think we should all --- me included goes without saying --- undertake to follow his example. We've all --- all --- been guilty of contributing to or in some cases starting, maybe maintaining the fires and I think now is a good time for us all to throw down the gasoline cans and try to join the fire brigade. If we all recognise that, rather than blame others --- or "everyone but me" --- on these incidents, and accept that we all have had a role to play in every situation --- unless we actually weren't involved in the discussion at all --- this could have been something as simple or esoteric as calming someone down rather than bait them, be the voice of reason --- (yes there are a lot of triple hyphens in this sentence, aren't there?) we can all do our bit to help, then perhaps, just perhaps, we can turn this thing around. Remember, although there's no smoke without fire, fire can't exist in a vacuum and if we provide that vacuum by refusing to be drawn into petty arguments --- a drama vacuum, if you like (yeah I'm aware I just used another triple hyphen!) then maybe the drama, like a fire without oxygen, might just gutter and go out. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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