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Burning Down · 08-08-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

What do I think members should do? Behave better, but I don't expect that unless they respect moderators and will follow their lead (but that can be a bad thing, depending on the example set). Members should post more good music stuff too, but that's a more complicated issue. I say deal with the simple stuff first. Where's your reply, tore?

Also, yes, I realize that being a moderator is a thankless job. But I think unfortunately that some people like the sense of power it gives them. I've been a moderator elsewhere.

Tore has previously stated that he does not want to be a moderator. He used to be one here, and was very good at it, but he moved on last year.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-08-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

What do I think members should do? Behave better, but I don't expect that unless they respect moderators and will follow their lead (but that can be a bad thing, depending on the example set). Members should post more good music stuff too, but that's a more complicated issue. I say deal with the simple stuff first. Where's your reply, tore?

Also, yes, I realize that being a moderator is a thankless job. But I think unfortunately that some people like the sense of power it gives them. I've been a moderator elsewhere.

I don't see any of the mods misbehaving personally. Feel free to tell us which mods you have a problem with and we could discuss it.

sopsych · 08-08-2013, 09:53 PM

No, no proof at all, but it's pretty clear that this forum has been going downhill for a while and that new ideas are needed. If this were a business and the moderators managers, some heads would roll.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-09-2013, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

If this were a business and the moderators managers, some heads would roll.

Are you going to add anything constructive or are you just going to repeat the same thing over and over again?

sopsych · 08-08-2013, 10:04 PM

I know that was tore's position, but I'm hoping it has changed lately. Clearly he's increasingly frustrated with the state of things.

By the way, on the subject of moderators again, I know of one site that had many behavioral problems, and partly as a result of gradual moderator turnover and the disappearance of an ill-tempered admin, the behavior has become quite good. People on that forum seem to really like and respect the mods. For the record, I don't want more than moderate turnover on this forum's moderators, just like a smart business wouldn't fire most of its managers.

Astronomer · 08-09-2013, 01:14 AM

Misbehaving mods? Just to give them even bigger heads than they already have, I think the mods do a great job here, and I frequent a lot of forums.

sopsych · 08-09-2013, 10:13 AM

Are you going to implement any of the changes suggested (by anyone) in this thread, or is this forum going to keep dying? And I think it's been made clear here who some of the moderators I have a problem with are.

Unknown Soldier · 08-09-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

or is this forum going to keep dying? And I think it's been made clear here who some of the moderators I have a problem with are.

Some parts of the forum are dying but other parts are in full bloom, I've never known in the years that I've been here, to have so many dedicated people writing journals on a weekly basis. Instead of dying, the forum might actually be evolving into something different from what it always was.

I belong to another forum, nothing to do with music and its equivalent of the "Members Journal" section is easily the most productive place on that site too.

Burning Down · 08-09-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

Are you going to implement any of the changes suggested (by anyone) in this thread, or is this forum going to keep dying? And I think it's been made clear here who some of the moderators I have a problem with are.

If you have a problem with ME, please feel free to send me a PM detailing your issues. Only because I have no idea which particular mods you have problems with. I haven't had much interaction with you at all on here, but every time I have it's because you complained about the forum or the mod team without offering a feasible way to amend the problems at hand.

I encourage you to read and participate in some of the new music threads that have popped up, especially the "Mystery Album Club" and the threads that Arya Stark has recently started.

GuitarBizarre · 08-09-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sopsych

Are you going to implement any of the changes suggested (by anyone) in this thread, or is this forum going to keep dying? And I think it's been made clear here who some of the moderators I have a problem with are.

Would both of you stop saber rattling and actually get back to suggesting things that might ****ing help?

08-08-2013, 09:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	No, no proof at all, but it's pretty clear that this forum has been going downhill for a while and that new ideas are needed. If this were a business and the moderators managers, some heads would roll. __________________ If you have ideas or feedback for the site, visit The Musicbanter Improvement Thread.

08-08-2013, 10:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	I know that was tore's position, but I'm hoping it has changed lately. Clearly he's increasingly frustrated with the state of things. By the way, on the subject of moderators again, I know of one site that had many behavioral problems, and partly as a result of gradual moderator turnover and the disappearance of an ill-tempered admin, the behavior has become quite good. People on that forum seem to really like and respect the mods. For the record, I don't want more than moderate turnover on this forum's moderators, just like a smart business wouldn't fire most of its managers. __________________ If you have ideas or feedback for the site, visit The Musicbanter Improvement Thread. Last edited by sopsych; 08-08-2013 at 10:12 PM.

08-09-2013, 01:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	Misbehaving mods? Just to give them even bigger heads than they already have, I think the mods do a great job here, and I frequent a lot of forums. __________________

08-09-2013, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	Are you going to implement any of the changes suggested (by anyone) in this thread, or is this forum going to keep dying? And I think it's been made clear here who some of the moderators I have a problem with are. __________________ If you have ideas or feedback for the site, visit The Musicbanter Improvement Thread.