Welcome jayshreddz as our newest moderator!

GuitarBizarre · 03-27-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Whoops, guess I gotta get in the back of the line now. I was so close.

The line has no back. You've just shifted position within a giant Thom Yorke dick sucking ouroboros.

duga · 03-27-2012, 08:29 PM

Well, we did get the guy to like Radiohead... So there may be hope.

Howard the Duck · 03-27-2012, 11:00 PM

i can't believe that there was 15 pages posted since i slept

he was made a super mod, get over it already

Paedantic Basterd · 03-27-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho

He's about as qualified as everyone else who's been modded in the last two years.

Pardon.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-27-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Pardon.

Ditto Pardon.

I'm not happy about this super moderation choice, I don't like that we got no say in it. What the hell is wrong with this place?! I'm away for a few days and **** has hit the fan.

Paedantic Basterd · 03-27-2012, 11:20 PM

If that's how people are feeling about the staff of this website, I might take a leaf out of Urban's book.

TockTockTock · 03-27-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

If that's how people are feeling about the staff of this website, I might take a leaf out of Urban's book.

You better not.

This whole situation is absolutely moronic. Was this a bad decision on Yac's part? Yea, but it's not like this Jay guy is going to effect the level of musical discussion on Music Banter. You all need to get over it and stop with all this drama.

Thom Yorke · 03-28-2012, 12:43 AM

I, for one, welcome our new MB overlord.

Howard the Duck · 03-28-2012, 12:49 AM

based on his post-count and what he explained - that he was an employee of the owners, i sorta get the feeling he's mostly going to be invisible anyway

Guybrush · 03-28-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Here's the deal. everbody who's been a member of this site for at least the past 2-3 years has noticed a significant drop in the quality of the forum. There's been multiple threads created on the subject with everyone giving there own two cents as to what they believe the reason is. More theories have been postulated about this than theories about what killed the dinosaurs. The truth of the matter is that the amount of active members on the site has grown immensely, yet the proportion of people who actively engage in intelligent, respectful discussion regarding music (of all things) has not grown commensurately. The sense of community and unified purpose used to be the hallmark of this place. For my own part, it's the reason why I was once very active on here.

Part of the problem of this is the way that mods are chosen. In one sense it's a great thing that mods are elected by other mods, because we're able to see first hand whether or not a member will be an appropriate fit for the position, but sometimes it doesn't quite work out that way. When a mod comes into their position having already developed relationships with some of the members, there is a hesitancy to to their job with any sort of impartiality. It's difficult to effectively be in a position of power while still desiring to be respected and well-liked by one's peers. The result of trying to balance both is a hesitancy to take action when action is necessary, as well as favoritism, which clouds judgement. In the end, what you have is no longer a unified sense of community, but a collection of cliques, and on the mod side, a bureaucracy that impedes progress.

When I was given my first tenure as moderator, it was very controversial because I hadn't been a member for very long at all, but as people got to know me they discovered that I was genuinely interested in the community and really knew my stuff. Perhaps the best thing to do with Jayshredzz is give him the benefit of the doubt. It's understandable that as a new member he's testing out some of his more unpopular opinions and realizing the power to provoke others to strongly disagree with him. That'll mellow out as he becomes more acclimated to engaging in discussion on here, and as he's called to make impartial decisions as a moderator. I honestly think that this may be exactly what MB needs to become a better forum and I look forward to being more active here than I have been in quite some time.

I don't really believe that the drop in quality has to do with the way people are modded. The site was clickey when I first came here (I pretty much immediately entered the prog click with Comus, Anteater and Boo Boo) and there were a lot more trolls around too and felt less friendly on the whole, yet I felt like people contributed more. There's been a change in posting culture and a lot of guys who were previously big contributors have left the site, f.ex TheCellarTapes, Bulldog and Seltzer.

If there's any way to change the culture of a community, I don't think it's by punishing people for writing the short, witty retort which we see a lot more of these days (or whatever behaviour it is you don't like). Rather, you have to reward people who you think are good posters. F.ex when RMR writes an album review, that should be rewarded with something more than just a few comments in a thread.

Had we had more control over this site, I believe we could have turned it into a place that nurtures the kind of culture that we'd like to see here. I'm sure this place being almost entirely static and run without any love or care for the community is a factor that helps turn this place into less than it could be and helps push people away. I can't say for Seltzer, Bulldog or TheCellarTapes, but I know that for my part, displeasure with administration was a large part of me quitting the mod job and becoming less active here. I have a feeling the same goes for Right-Track and now Urban's gone/quit ..

People are afraid that doing something drastic is gonna hurt the community, but this environment kills your enthusiasm over time so the community is already getting hurt. It just goes slowly so it's harder to notice.

03-27-2012, 08:29 PM	#182 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	Well, we did get the guy to like Radiohead... So there may be hope. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

03-27-2012, 11:20 PM	#186 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	If that's how people are feeling about the staff of this website, I might take a leaf out of Urban's book.

03-28-2012, 12:43 AM	#188 (permalink)
Thom Yorke Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,848	I, for one, welcome our new MB overlord.