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Moderators SHOULD use personal judgment in moderating decisions. 20 66.67%
Moderators SHOULD NOT use personal judgment in moderating decisions, and refer to strict rules only. 5 16.67%
Members SHOULD be allowed to break rules, provided they are not habitually doing so. 16 53.33%
Members SHOULD NOT be allowed to break any rules, at any time. 10 33.33%
Moderators SHOULD take history and frequency into account, when infracting. 24 80.00%
Moderators SHOULD NOT take history and frequency into account, when infracting. 3 10.00%
Moderators SHOULD publically post a member's infraction and/or ban information. 13 43.33%
Moderators SHOULD NOT publically post a member's infraction and/or ban information. 12 40.00%
Members SHOULD PM a moderator for questions regarding such information. 19 63.33%
Members SHOULD NOT PM a moderator for that information, but ask publicly. 6 20.00%
Moderators should have to justify ALL of their decisions. 14 46.67%
Moderators should have to justify SOME of their decisions. 12 40.00%
Moderators should not have to justify ANY of their decisions. 2 6.67%
Members should be given a LIMITED number of chances to cease disruptive activity. 28 93.33%
Members should be given UNLIMITED chances to cease disruptive activity. 1 3.33%
Moderators SHOULD be allowed to decide what constitutes disruption. 22 73.33%
Moderators SHOULD NOT be allowed to decide what constitutes disruption. 2 6.67%
The "Why Someone Is Banned" thread should be CLOSED. 10 33.33%
The "Why Someone Is Banned" thread should remain OPEN. 17 56.67%
Actions going against rules SHOULD be allowed in specific threads designed for these activities. 20 66.67%
Actions going against rules SHOULD NOT be allowed in specific threads designed for these activities. 4 13.33%
Complaints against moderation should be taken up in PM 17 56.67%
Complaints against moderation should be posted PUBLICLY. 13 43.33%
In order for everyone to be treated equally, moderation must be black & white. 3 10.00%
Black & white moderation will lead to an unhappy community afraid of expressing themselves. 19 63.33%
Community majority opinion on these matters SHOULD dictate future activities. 22 73.33%
Community majority opinion on these matters SHOULD NOT dictate future activities 3 10.00%
Moderator majority opinion on these matters should dictate future activity. 10 33.33%
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Old 06-16-2011, 01:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I meant "history means nothing" in the sense that someone who has been a member for 5 years should receive no more leniency than someone who has been a member for 5 days. To think that one would gain exception or preference simply because they have longevity on their side is the symbol of a fundamentally flawed system of law. Of course I didn't mean that someone could repeatedly break a rule while the mods disregard their past offenses, so perhaps I misunderstood the question.

Can't say I agree, again. Sometimes an action is given new context by a persons prior history. An example would be in an IRC chat I frequent (Not the MB chat). I've always been one to speak my mind in this channel, but as time has gone on I've been able to do that more fully in the channel without being given grief for it, because the channel have become more in tune with my personality and I with theirs. Its now roughly at the point that I can let fly and scream blue murder in manners that would get a newbie banned in moments, because despite the actions being the same, the community understands the approach to the extent its given an amount of leeway. While this might say to you that undue preference is being given, I have seen no evidence that anyone is unhappy with this arrangement, and in some situations channel moderators and members alike have fully endorsed my stretching or outright breaking of the rules on the understanding that it doesn't occur on a frequent enough basis to be a significant problem, and also that when it does occur, I usually have the sense to break rules in a way that benefits the community, via either comedy, or providing a rallying cry behind which a channel can voice its opinion of trolls. Without me having the ability to break those rules, these trolls would never encounter significant resistance as insultin them or otherwise making them look foolish would be disallowed.


Sorry, but even if David Bowie got drunk and murdered another person, I'd still want the same punishment for him as I would for some lowlife scumbag who has never contributed anything positive to society.

Absolutely, but would you want a shoplifter stealing bread to feed his family, to face the same punishments as a man stealing bread to sell on at a profit, or simply for gluttonys sake? The crime is the exact same, the punishment, evidently less just on one party than the other, if the same punishment were meted to both offenders.



That's perfectly fine, and I agree that mods should listen to to and consider the majority community opinion, but I absolutely disagree with the notion that the "majority opinion" determines what's right. If there's anything I've learned from American politics, it's that the judiciary system is designed not to uphold majority views, but to protect the minority (when they are in the right) from those majority views.
The last part I fully agree with.
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