Rage Against the MODchine

~~Dirty~~ · 05-25-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

You haven't listened to a word Big3 or anyone else has said. It's not everyones business to know every detail of why someone was banned/infracted. This is CLEARLY because if we say this person broke the rules then they DID. We shouldn't have to give a million details every time someone is banned, because at the end of the day they've most likely been given multiple chances to improve their behaviour and have ****ed up.

I've listened to all of it, I just disagree with some of it. By 'a million details' I have to assume you actually mean three. AKA who was banned, for how long, and why? I don't think it could be any more simple than that. Your argument is that it isn't anyone else's business because...it just isn't?? Or that you are violating human privacy rights or something. And I think that's silly since they chose to make a post on a public forum for everyone to see. I don't see a reason to not tell curious others exactly why someone was banned and you do. Pretty stupid to me.

Me and some other members just disagree with the mods (and some other members). Tis life.

Freebase Dali · 05-25-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay

Okay, from your post it sounded like you were no longer an active poster at the time, not just on sabbatical. I guess you must be the blaring exception to the rule. The forum had to search you down during your off time and beg you to come police the rest of us peasants. How grateful we are for your presence. [/SARCASM]

I have no problem with any of the mods. Hell, I've never even talked to half of you. Why we need a dozen mods, half of whom are basically n00bs is beyond me, but who am I to judge, right?

Just a question, how long were you a member before you became a moderator?

Dude... it doesn't matter how long she was a member. We obviously all felt that she was not only intelligent enough to do the job properly, but mature enough to do it well and provide a necessary perspective in our team, and also provide a perspective that was completely separated from any cliques, attachments, or otherwise. The very fact that you associate longevity with mod abilities probably speaks volumes about the fact that you've never been modded.
Time does not equal ability or usefulness.
I don't care if you've been here since the forum's inception... that does not, and will never, exclusively qualify someone for the job. I have the feeling you're intelligent enough to realize that, so I won't go any further with it.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 05-25-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

I've listened to all of it, I just disagree with some of it. By 'a million details' I have to assume you actually mean three. AKA who was banned, for how long, and why? I don't think it could be any more simple than that. Your argument is that it isn't anyone else's business because...it just isn't?? Or that you are violating human privacy rights or something. And I think that's silly since they chose to make a post on a public forum for everyone to see. I don't see a reason to not tell curious others exactly why someone was banned and you do. Pretty stupid to me.

Me and some other members just disagree with the mods (and some other members). Tis life.

We will tell you they were banned IF asked by someone and let you know what rule they broke and how long they are banned for. I got the impression from previous comments by you that you want a lot more than that, like exact posts the crime was committed in etc.

~~Dirty~~ · 05-25-2011, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

We will tell you they were banned IF asked by someone and let you know what rule they broke and how long they are banned for. I got the impression from previous comments by you that you want a lot more than that, like exact posts the crime was committed in etc.

Well your impression was right because that is exactly what I would prefer lol. But it's obvious to me the mods for some reason or another want to keep those once public posts very private, which i feel is dumb. My man thong won't twist my balls around whether or not this ever changes, that's just how i feel about it

~~[MERIT]~~ · 05-25-2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

The very fact that you associate longevity with mod abilities probably speaks volumes about the fact that you've never been modded.

Cheap shot, bravo. I apologize if I'm coming off as jealous. As if anyone would be jealous of some douchebag moderator on an internet forum. I just don't like children telling me what to do.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 05-25-2011, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

Well your impression was right because that is exactly what I would prefer lol. But it's obvious to me the mods for some reason or another want to keep those once public posts very private, which i feel is dumb. My man thong won't twist my balls around whether or not this ever changes, that's just how i feel about it

Ok then. Message recieved. We definitely have taken it on board.

~~Dirty~~ · 05-25-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Ok then. Message recieved. We definitely have taken it on board.

Freebase Dali · 05-25-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

Well your impression was right because that is exactly what I would prefer lol. But it's obvious to me the mods for some reason or another want to keep those once public posts very private, which i feel is dumb. My man thong won't twist my balls around whether or not this ever changes, that's just how i feel about it

I can sympathize with what you're saying, to an extent... but I think what Vanilla is trying to say is that there are times when certain posts are better off deleted so that they don't incite more people into perpetuating the behavior or posting responses that may fall in the same category as those that are gotten rid of or infracted for.

When a mod deletes a post, it's usually because it goes against basic policy. While it does deprive other members of that curiosity being met, it's also serving a purpose that is more valid than pleasing curiosity, 9 times out of 10.

People may not enjoy that fact, but it's still a fact, and the mods don't expect everyone to see it that way... but we do the job regardless. But, as a caveat to that, we definitely enjoy letting the community in on goofs and situations involving spammers or noobs that have no future here... It's just a different situation when it involves regular members who may be affected negatively. And while we've definitely made some bad decisions in this regard, we really do collectively want, and try, to minimize that as much as possible... and I think that's where the divide exists between the perspectives here.

Freebase Dali · 05-25-2011, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay

Cheap shot, bravo. I apologize if I'm coming off as jealous. As if anyone would be jealous of some douchebag moderator on an internet forum. I just don't like children telling me what to do.

I understand what you mean. I wasn't insinuating that you were jealous, and I apologize if that's the way it seemed. I simply meant that you apparently have some misguided ideas about how we select moderators. I really don't think you can dispute that.

As far as children telling you what to do, I can sympathize with that as well. Try having 19-year-old NCO's in charge of you in the Army. Hehe.
Anyway, I'm only 30 years old, and I definitely feel like I'm still a young guy, but I think I have at least a bit of understanding when it comes to things in general. While I don't claim to be all-knowing, I do stand behind my decisions and more often than not, my decisions are supported. So I think maybe we have a bit of a misunderstanding between us if your comment was aimed at me personally.
If not, then I guess I just typed all that for nothing.

Howard the Duck · 05-25-2011, 02:09 AM

i don't have any problems with the current team

my only "minor" niggle is that they should have banned The Virgin earlier