When Someone is Banned

TheBig3 · 05-06-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I definitely support transparency to an extent. I don't mind telling you guys anything you want to know about why we make certain decisions. The only things I personally hold back are things that can be exploited by members, to negative ends. Thankfully, there are very few exploits, so if you ask me something regarding modding, it's a very high probability that you will get an honest answer.

With this zoo full of *******s, I'd suggest saying very little.

Paedantic Basterd · 05-06-2011, 05:12 PM

Personally, I believe it's nobody's business except the moderators' and the banned user's. The user in question may not want this information made public, and I think they have the right to that privacy. If that user makes it clear that they don't mind the release of that information, then I see no problem with sharing it publicly. Until then, I will be selective about what I share. I don't believe in naming-and-shaming.

NSW · 05-06-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Personally, I believe it's nobody's business except the moderators' and the banned user's. The user in question may not want this information made public, and I think they have the right to that privacy. If that user makes it clear that they don't mind the release of that information, then I see no problem with sharing it publicly. Until then, I will be selective about what I share. I don't believe in naming-and-shaming.

This is exactly right. If the banned person chooses to share why they were banned, then so be it. It's improper and indiscreet for the mods to provide this info to the entire forum.

Burning Down · 05-06-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Personally, I believe it's nobody's business except the moderators' and the banned user's. The user in question may not want this information made public, and I think they have the right to that privacy. If that user makes it clear that they don't mind the release of that information, then I see no problem with sharing it publicly. Until then, I will be selective about what I share. I don't believe in naming-and-shaming.

Yes, exactly. If the member in question wants to parade that information around, then so be it. If they would rather it be kept quiet, that's fine. Or if they don't want the info shared on the forums but instead want to discuss the issue with a few select members only, through PM or whatever, then they're ultimately responsible for any details that get out. You can't trust anybody to hold a secret forever.

Freebase Dali · 05-06-2011, 06:21 PM

Realistically, there are usually multiple people who witness the ban-worthy event go down, and it spreads anyway. After all, most folks get banned for something they do in public view of the community. But yea, if it's some kind of private thing, I'd keep it private unless otherwise requested.

I was speaking more about policy and addressing complaints.

**Janszoon** · 05-06-2011, 06:26 PM

I used to be a member on a forum where people were often banned secretly for unknown reasons and no one was allowed to ask about it. As a result I think I have a bit of a different viewpoint than the other mods on this. I'm more than happy to provide reasons for a ban if people want to know, at least in a general sense.

Burning Down · 05-06-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I used to be a member on a forum where people were often banned secretly for unknown reasons and no one was allowed to ask about it and as a result I think I have a bit of a different perspective than the other mods on this. I'm more than happy to provide reasons for a ban if people want to know, at least in a general sense.

That sounds like it was some sort of fascist regime.

**Janszoon** · 05-06-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

That sounds like it was some sort of fascist regime.

Haha. Pretty much. It wasn't that way when I first joined but it slowly evolved in that direction.

djchameleon · 05-06-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I used to be a member on a forum where people were often banned secretly for unknown reasons and no one was allowed to ask about it. As a result I think I have a bit of a different viewpoint than the other mods on this. I'm more than happy to provide reasons for a ban if people want to know, at least in a general sense.

That's pretty much all I was saying, we don't need to know the very specific details but just a general idea of how long the ban is and when they will be back type of stuff.

Freebase Dali · 05-06-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

That's pretty much all I was saying, we don't need to know the very specific details but just a general idea of how long the ban is and when they will be back type of stuff.

I definitely support that. I think we had that discussion in this thread, if I'm not mistaken, and most folks agreed that it's pretty much common courtesy to let folks know when to expect their peers back.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Personally, I believe it's nobody's business except the moderators' and the banned user's. The user in question may not want this information made public, and I think they have the right to that privacy. If that user makes it clear that they don't mind the release of that information, then I see no problem with sharing it publicly. Until then, I will be selective about what I share. I don't believe in naming-and-shaming.

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Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Realistically, there are usually multiple people who witness the ban-worthy event go down, and it spreads anyway. After all, most folks get banned for something they do in public view of the community. But yea, if it's some kind of private thing, I'd keep it private unless otherwise requested. I was speaking more about policy and addressing complaints.