member bans
 

i don't really understand why you mods feel the need to ban contributing members. all of us can get out of line from time to time. this isn't fucking high school. it hurts the site. in my mind, the only behavior worth banning would be a physical threat.

Ban him.

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I think it pretty much boils down to certain "contributing" members taking advantage of the fact that we actually don't like banning contributing members. But if we didn't draw a line in the sand somewhere, this place would be a war-zone.
What you probably don't realize is we give people EXCESSIVE opportunities to shape up and we find ourselves constantly warning certain people and getting absolutely nowhere. Most often, we allow these members to return to the site after a period of time, but if it becomes clear that they have no intention of following some very easy-to-understand, basic rules that actually serve a purpose for the greater good of the community, then it's their fault.

Contributing is important, yes... but when you're disrupting as much as you're contributing, and are always doing it, the solution is obvious. People around here have a tendency to get dragged into it and it affects everyone.

Is second this. :p:

Forums need to have rules, and if you don't respect them, then you should be banned.

What did Boo Boo get banned for? I heard it was because he was being immature in an argument. So I can agree with Eric to a degree, we all get a bit immature and out of line now and again. (That said, I don't actually know what was said in Boo Boo's argument so he could've been well out of line and the ban could have been justified.)

I'm sure the mods don't want to ban existing contributing members, but if we all know they aren't going to ban us. Some would take liberties as Freebase said.

could you PM me some examples or post them here? i really don't get how some harsh comments hurt the forum.

This is Off Topic but I love the quote in your sig.

I haven't seen the conversation that resulted in the banning of CaptainCaveman, but I did read that he had multiple accounts, which are against the rule to have there.

In terms of why boo boo was banned it was because he had just come back from a 3 day ban and went right back into old habits and actually asked to be banned.

i never get to see the ban-worthy posts because they are quickly deleted. what could boo boo have said that was so inflammatory as to warrant a ban?

Word on the street is, Captain Caveman brought back Chilly Monk, his infamous alter-ego from the Chollie Mank saga at some point last night. And was subsequently banned for posting spam-like comments and posts in the shoutbox. I'm not sure if there was any posting on the boards involved. This is all strictly allegedly BTW. I have no factual evidence to back this up.

I do agree that both boo boo's 1-month band, and this CC ban, were seemingly much too harsh for the offenses committed. At least from my perspective. boo boo essentially got banned for having a bad day in the shoutbox, his ban was given out of haste IMO.

It's not harsh when you consider that guy has had more final warnings than the rest of all the members here put together.

One was on final warning, one was just back from a ban. both pushed their luck one too many times.

That's not the mods fault thats the members faults and they're not here because of it.

Again, it's not the specific event that causes these things. It's the culmination of a shit load of specific events that clearly demonstrate a user is not willing to play by the rules.
The thing people need to remember is the general MB population is not going to have the full story about what gets moderated most of the time, nor is it our job to have a sit-down with the members of this site to vote on how we should moderate it. So naturally, the result is going to be that the members see a punishment for which they only see part of the offense. As a result, you're going to have a skewed perspective of it.
While no one is asking you to not have your own opinion about it, we do ask that you'll take into account the fact that we make decisions based on a lot more information than most are privy to, individually. I would hope that this fact agrees between us all that the moderators are a little more qualified to make the judgments, based on evidence.

I understand that some members may have issue with some of these decisions because, as Eric said, anything that contributes to these bans is deleted and they never see it.

But when you consider that certain "contributing members" get warning after warning and treatment we wouldn't give a noob and don't take any notice of them then it gets to the point where we can't continue to stretch or be more lenient with the rules because the member in question has been here a long time rather than join up simply to break the rules and therefore be banned promptly.

Some long standing members here have frequently and consistently broken the rules and been warned that if they continue to behave the way they are behaving, a point will be reached where they have to suffer the same consequences as everyone else.

If they are a long standing member then they know the rules. If they continue to break them and force us to do something that we may not want to do, then they have no one but themselves to blame and speaking from a personal point of view here for a moment, wont be missed.

Cry me a river.

End of story.

agreed.

i've had to force myself to stay out of lounge and media discussions i know i could legitimately contribute to because of certain members. i don't lose sleep over it, this site is just a diversion to me, but it's still rather annoying. especially as so many others have said when it's because certain members are getting special treatment and endless warnings.

The mods are going to do things not everyone agrees with. I've seen what a forum with little to no moderation can look like, and it's not fun at all. I feel like I can actually have a decent discussion (most of the time) here because of the modding. Do what must be done, guys.

Please let this happen.

This place really isn't even that heavily moderated compared to baseball boards either...

Yeah dude, the mods are pretty lax.

But I kind of agree with eric in that banning people who have that many posts does inevitably hurt forum activity. I mean, this place isn't the most lively to begin with.

IE, Even though Hugo is frequently a total asshat, he keeps things interesting.

Just bloody use "Octane", if that's who you mean.

The moderation on this forum is quite excellent, there is a complete absence of trolls and spammers, and it seems like only the established members get away with anything. Frankly, Boo Boo's attitude and way of speaking were ban worthy imo, and it's not like it's permanent. Maybe when he returns, he'll learn to get a grip on those unsightly emotional whims.

I wouldn't bet on it.

Or hold your breath.

I banned Boo Boo for a month as he requested to be banned for a certain amount of time so I increased it as he was warned numerous time in the shoutbox by myself to calm his behaviour. Having an off day is one thing. Calling people names just because they don't like the bands CONSTANTLY despite numerous warnings gave me no option to give a longer ban. If your kid constantly swears at people and calls them names then I will not tolerate it, so when a 22 year old man does it then I'm afraid it's a ban.

The rules are generally very lenient here and I have been on a few forums where moderation is a lot tougher. PM's are sent to members who step out of line as we like to keep things out of the forum and stop them coming to a head but some people just can't chill out.

That's about the only justification I will proffer here and if anyone thinks it's unfair then quite honestly- tough. Behave and nothing will happen will it?

Not really, I sort of followed Big3 around for a month trying to get banned, yelling at him about pop tarts, and sending him pictures of deoderent and I didn't even get a warning.....

Thats because I'm a terrible person and the mods see it as justice.

"They Mod(!) is mystereeeeeerioussss waaaayayyaaaaas"

No but seriously, when did you do that because I didn't even notice?

way to fail at being a troll. pop tarts and pictures of deodorant OH NO! hahaha

sending people deoderant is quite unsettling. I'd be freaked out.

Depending on where they're applying it, I can see your point.

I was like, 12 at the time.....I'm not even sure. Try the Ke$ha thread?

I'll try again after I hit 1111 posts.....

Gawd, I would LOVE some pop tarts right now...

Wait... what the sh1t?

http://www.musicbanter.com/pop/46640...tml#post811190

I think this is it, I PMed him pictures of deoderant every day for like, a month afterwards....which is what should have gotten me banned, but W/E. Its not even that bad now that I read it......


EDIT: I love that you call Justice French rednecks then start talking about arthouse, Big3.....

Boo Boo banned... again?!

WTF? :laughing:

x2.

What did he do this time?

How many time's that now?

I don't know, I haven't seen anything ban worthy on the boards. I would like to know why he's banned again. He was being pretty cool when I was on last night.

I'm pretty sure it was because he was insulting people in the shoutbox.

Business as usual then?

You mean Guitar Bizarre and bungalow attacked him unprovoked right? Because that's what I read when I read the shoutbox posts from last night. So they're getting banned too right? Wasn't that part of Freebase's plan?

i attacked him? lol. what shoutbox were you reading.