Patronization is subjective. Subjective to you and subjective to me and subjective to remaining third parties. Sorry that my posting etiquette doesn't stroke you in a positive manner.

He's been warned for it and the last thing we need is you stirring things up.
And you are in no position to talk especially with your track record.

So this ends now.

Lets try and keep the death toll to a minimum lads!
Not the best thread to start arguing in.

Agreed.

The One, The Only, The Dirty
 

What could he possibly have done to be suspended/banned?

He's smoked his last virtual blunt :(

Many found him to be a nuisance, I get that. But is that grounds for an infraction?

This has just been the strangest day.

Lol. Sorry for putting you in the middle of the drammma.

Se would have done it herself anyway.

he got banned?! For how long? Holy **** how did I see this coming?

Aww, he was about to win the Biggest Troll award too.

What the hell did he do?

Some mod please address this already.

My best guess is he got banned for photoshopping a hotdog into a picture of one of the younger female members, despite being warned to tone down the sexuality a number of times.

:rofl: Ah, WTF he actually did it!?! I told him not to!

That's pretty hilarious though.

Ehh fair enough.

There's no way its for more than a week anyway. CC and The Unfan got multiple infractions/bans before they were perma'd.

It's not permanent.

I guess every banned member gets their own thread, regardless of how absurdly annoying they were?

Well the situation wasn't clear, and believe it or not, some people don't hate him.

He was annoying but in a fun way.

I banned Dirty, because after two warnings from two different moderators, including myself, both of which went completely disregarded, he chose to continue with his unsolicited overtly sexual postings.

If anyone has any questions or concerns regarding this you can PM me, or any of the other mods, or post here if it's appropriate to.

Right, being annoying is one thing. But making some of the female members the focus of sexual jokes is a completely different situation in its own. PavementSaw wasn't the only one, so I'm sure you guys can see now why it was a problem?
I'm not sure why anyone needed an explanation. We have plenty of people who "take the piss out of" things without being personally offensive to people.

Who cares

You're a hypocrite. This is why.

http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...tml#post930477

http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...tml#post930430

I don't think we need more drama, so let's just all try to be relax. It's not hypocritical, I think FaSho just has different feelings about this particular banning. That's normal. Anyway, it's not a permanent ban. I think it would be hard to deny that Dirty didn't have some sort of action coming for a while. He was really testing our limits.

All in all, I guess now he (and everyone else) knows where we draw the line.

He is one of my favorite posters to read. He stirs the sometimes dull MB pot and I enjoy that...

Posting sexually explicit material on a music forum like this is not only inappropriate, but completely unacceptable.
Especially when that person had been warned previously.
There are different ways to stir the pot and make this place a bit more fun, but that isn't one of them.
It's important that this place has a tolerance level that helps to maintain standards and if someone gets a temp ban because of it...so what?
At least members know where the boundaries are.
If he comes back and still insists on pushing the boundaries (which he probably will) then I hope his next ban is a permanent one.

Well, I can see why the mods wouldn't tolerate a guy like Dirty on a forum.
He indeed is excessively vulgar sometimes.
That's allright when you get to know him. I mean, he didn't seem like a bad guy to me at all. But for newbies and the people who don't like to be treated in an overly sexual way, I can understand it must have been difficult to the mods to see how he reacted to people who weren't ready for his way of putting things.
I run a forum myself and I do feel sort of responsible for the way my members behave, especially towards newbies.
Eitherway, I hope he'll be back soon. And he should calm down. His way of talking isnt appreciated by everyone.

And that's what it's all about.

I want to emphasize this point, but it may be in a different context than Duga intended.

While some members may manage to get in trouble all by themselves, I've been here long enough to notice that there are folks who tend to push others into reacting negatively, whether they realize it or not. New members that join this community don't know the dynamic here and often times they'll react when they feel cornered or challenged. To me, the result of such a scenario is not entirely the fault of the noob. While some may say "well if he can't deal and adapt, then he doesn't belong here", the fact of the matter is everyone should be given a chance to be a part of the community in a positive way. People are going to mess up, but our job as mods is to deal with that and give those people opportunities to correct themselves. I think I can speak on behalf of all the other mods in saying that while we don't expect everyone to like everyone here, we do ask that you give these people the opportunity to learn how this community flows and afford them the same chances to learn from mistakes that you'd afford yourself.
If certain members don't want to do that, then they are asked to simply leave the person alone.

I agree with this. I think after a certain point, poor Dirty never stood a chance because no matter what he did he was accused of being a troll and was provoked. He had a huge target on his back--perhaps deservedly so--and was getting ganged up on...

Which is all well and good providing the individual actually learns the ropes.
A temp ban won't do him any harm. I've banned members in the past for less than that and had them thank me only months later.
Nothing wrong with being hard, but fair.
Some members never get the message though. Once you put the ball in their court these types effectively end up banning themselves.

I can't agree with this. When someone digs themselves into a hole it's usually a wise decision to stop digging.

... and somehow still get propelled into some kind of foolish martyrdom.

As in stop posting, even if they are making fair posts (which he was doing up until the "Hot Dog Incident of 2010")?

Exactly.
I just think it'd be easier for someone to learn the ropes by not having people ripping into them as soon as they get back from punishment, which has happened in the past with a certain member that rhymes with poo poo. Although his case may not be the best to use as a comparison, but you get my drift. ;)

That's not true, there were times him and I had good conversations.
And times I got really annoyed with him for trolling.
**** happens, and he chose to troll once again.

He can hold a good conversation too, it's a shame he's so inappropriate.

You've just answered your own question.

Yeah, but I'm saying he was being provoked before he posted that image. Check out all of the "fails", "poor man's CC" and "just go aways" in that thread, despite the fact that other members were leaving "LOL" and ":rofl:" after his posts...

(I can't be certain which page he posted the Hot Dog because it seems the thread has experienced some plastic surgery)

Certainly. I guess the lesson of boo boo should be learnt by infracting, or even temp banning those who rip into him unfairly on his return.
Like I said, the ban won't do him any harm.
An apology for his behaviour wouldn't do him any harm either.