People are using ways to get around these words eitherway.
And does it really matter? I mean, I am pretty sure I can hurt someone a lot more by saying goddamned than by saying ****.
It's not like it's solving anything to mask some words. The message is still the same. It all seems a bit overly moralistic to me.

Take it up with Google. The MB admins are just looking at it in a functional context... if there's a curse filter implemented, their site ranks higher in Google. I don't think our owners/admins are placing any moral significance on it at all.

Is there a way for us to see what suggestions are do-able and completely not do-able so when we DO make suggestions?

We don't keep making the same old suggestions over and over again.

or is that for Mods Eyes Only?

Hahaha, I was afraid it had something to do with that.
Nothing to do about that then.
(google is overly moralistic though)

If you guys want, I can make another thread and include items that have been sent up the last time, which have been granted, and which have been ignored, and dictate that the thread is to be used seriously. If people promise to be actively involved in it, I think it will work. I can include all realistic suggestions in the first post "list", and/or debate anything on the fence, and go by majority opinion.

Would that be preferable?

sure, I'd like that and it would help to come up with other alternatives or other suggestions that are a bit more productive and possibly feasible.

K. I'll get it underway.

I'd like it if you could put a limit on the ratio of lounge to music posts or something so we donn't have people constantly posting in the lounge, which is a big deal atm imo.

why is that a big deal? I don't get it.

If people want to post where they feel more comfortable posting then so be it.

Agreed.

This is a music forum, but most of the time, there's not much music discussion going on. Kind of defeats the purpose tbh.

Why?

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Was the image limit even lower than 10? It's way too low for me.
It punishes you when you multi quote :(.

Stop poll votes from bumping thread. Request!
Add a function that tells you when there are other posts done while you were typing, request!!!
Add 'functional' smileys instead of the 'funny' ones, especially in the menu you get next to your posting.
e.g.:
http://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/smiley.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/wink.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/grin.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/angry.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/sad.gifhttp://www.analogaudio.nl/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif Etcetera. Request!

Yea, originally the image limit per-post was 4. What number should we raise to? The reason it's only 10 now, is because we didn't really have a baseline of need to go off of originally, and 10 just seemed like a nice-round number. If people have found need for a specific number of images, please post that here so we can get an idea of what people need.

I like the post-done function idea, although I'm not sure whether the forum software will implement it, seeing as new updates to anything are available upon re-load to the server... like how you only see new PMs or what not, after you've refreshed or loaded a page. If you have any resources for this function, please post them. :)

As for smileys, is there a database of smileys we could reference?

Make polls editable by the thread starter, at least once.

Make it so that threads you posted in still show up when you click "new posts".

I might've known you'd request something to do with effin smileys S K! Goddamn it

Certain members post completly in the lounge and never post about music. It just gets on my nerves because the sites for music lovers, and take pedestrian's mod thread for example, a few members were complaining about her being modded because they don't see her posts because they only post in the lounge.

Well I should say a limit isn't neccesary, but I know postings with too many images can cause problems on some computers. I'm not sure what causes this, they just stop loading images. This could also be a bug of SMF forums (my forum is an SMF forum). I'm not sure.
Eitherway, if someone wants to post images he or she will just continue in the next posting, so it doesn't stop anyone from doing so.
If it causes problems for no one, I'd say: no limit.
It could be handy though if images weren't included in quotes, or a maximum of 5 images only. Some people tend to quote postings with 10 images in them and that's a bit overdone I guess.
So, my question here is: Why is there a limit in the first place and is it really neccesary?

For all I say goes: This, if the software accepts it. I realise every forum software has restrictions so no prob if it isn't going to work. I'm just going to put all my idea's down here. I hope this won't make you think that I think the software sucks or the forum sucks or 'my forum is so much better'. Because I don't think that. I just try to help :).

And here's another one;
When I put a picture in a posting on my own forum, I can do this
[img width=640]http://linktotheimage.com/image.jpg[/img].
This way the image will only be 640 pixels wide. I should admit that my forum also has an option of automatically resizing images to 800 pixels but that just doesn't work. Far from perfect, thus.
Eitherway, if you want to make a link to a bigger image on my forum, you can do this
[ url=http://siteofimage/200pixelswideimage.jpg][img width=640]http://siteofimage/200pixelswideimage.jpg[/img][/url]

So it's the same as making a clickable url by doing
[ url=http://www.thisistheurl.com]CLICK HERE[/url]
Only you make a clickable image instead of a clickable URL.
Also you use the width=640 command to make the clickable image smaller while the original image stays huge ass. Very practical. Probably not possible, just sayin' ;D

Another idea; My forum provides you with a pop-up (you can turn it on or off in your profile) whenever you get a PM and when you click 'ok', it opens the pm in a new tab/window. Very practical if you ask me. I often don't see that I have a PM here.

Another one: I am a stupid ass so I always post visitor messages in my own profile when I try to reply to someone. I can't get the hang of it and I noticed it doesn't just happen to me. It would be nice if this wasn't possible.

Moar, and I really mean this one: GIMME A MEMBERS LIST! I hate not having that. It's so unpractical!

I like these ideas, in theory. Let's debate them before we add them, though.
Here are my thoughts: (Others, post your own if applicable)

- Polls editable by thread starter is a good idea. That eliminates most of the need for moderators to edit them for the original poster. That would be a pro.
Con: If it's a decisive poll, that is not public, that person could change the values of the votes. Ultimately, it may not seem like a problem in most scenarios, but I think that would be something the community should decide. With that said, I would leave that open for everyone to weigh in on.

- I'm not sure how your second request would be necessary... If you were the last person to post in a thread, why would you want it to show up as a new post? Feel free to discuss this. Anyone? Maybe I'm not seeing the point.

James, just keep that as "something I wish would happen" and not as a legit suggestion. You have a ratio or something and then you've got people like me posting bullshit in the Metal forum and accomplishing nothing. There's nothing wrong with things anyways. People post on stuff they are knowledgeable about and want to talk about and that's fine by me.

Does Alfred mean that the threads you post in will always show up as new threads?
That wouldn't be very practical as I want to click that little button telling me there are new postings in threads. So... How can I know there are new postings in there?
If you mean you want to know what threads you posted in; It could be handy to be able to get updates on threads you follow (adding a follow button to threads) in your profile or via e-mail.

It was, obviously it's not possible to make that happen. It just pisses me off, I see sex discussed more than music ever since Ill Duce joined.

Well, I'm used to being able to do this on other forums. Say you forgot to add something to a post of yours. It's just kind of a nice shortcut.

Even threads that you don't post in, if you read the last page, they won't show up on "new posts." It'd just make things a little easier for some people. Maybe not everyone wants it, but if there was an option that could be set on your profile to view all posts made recently when you click "new posts", regardless of whether or not you saw the thread, that'd be nice on the occasions that you do want to go back and read a thread.

I'm not too sure about how the forum software handles linked images. This is something we could look into. I'm wondering if the forum just handles the link, and doesn't actually cache the image? If that's the case, then unlimited images wouldn't put any kind of strain on server storage or bandwidth, as the images themselves are being handled by the original server they're hosted on. As far as images that are actually uploaded to MB's server as an attachment, I could see why there would be a limit there. Maybe we can make a distinction, like unlimited linked images, provided the software only handles the URLs themselves? Again, more research will be needed to confirm the handling.

So basically what we're talking about is extended bbcode to resize and/or customize images, etc? This is a good idea. Perhaps we can do some research and figure out which bbcode additions we'd like to add, and make a list of that to include?

We have that already. You need to go into your settings in the userCP and enable the setting that gives you a popup with a PM is received. The only caveat to add to this, is the popup doesn't arrive until you actually initiate a communication with the server, and it updates you. aka.. clicking a thread, changing pages, refreshing, etc.

Some folks may agree or disagree with this one... as in, some folks may enjoy posting on their own. Dunno, I think that's something that should be decided by the community, as it affects everyone. Votes on that would be appreciated, if anyone has opinions on it.

I want this too. Everyone does. I think it has been requested in the past, but I can't remember what became of it. I'll add this by default.

I don't see why it can't be a legitimate improvement. This is a music site as I stated before. If people posted more about music, maybe this place wouldn't be so dead.

Like s_k is saying, it may be more practical to have something like a "recent posts you made" section in your CP, maybe like the last 5 posts or something, that's dynamically updated, so that you can quick-reference them.

As far as viewing unread posts made recently, maybe there could be a filter you can set for New Posts, so that you can specify how far back you want the list to go?

Just ideas. If we can all whittle these ideas into focused, implementable ideas, I'll be glad to add them to the list. :)

If people who post more in the lounge post more in the music forums, it isn't going to solve anything. You'll just get more people saying "this band sucks/is awesome." Which is what most of you complain about anyways. There won't be any addition to good discussion. People post about which music and artists they feel comfortable posting about. If it's only a few artists, who cares? At least they are adding their opinions about them. Only way to make certain forums more active is to have new members come in who feel like posting about different artists. Generally I think this place is pretty welcoming. It'd probably be a good idea to post links to artist threads or forums in welcome threads depending on who the new member says they listen to so more new members stick around.

Short one, gotta get some sleep.
I don't think any forum ever will cache images itself.
That would be very unpractical. I think it just handles the link.

Well I don't know what the limites of bbcode are, but I think it shouldn't be too difficult to make it accept simple resize commands. It would be even better if it had a button for that for the people wo can't remember the code :)

Sorry about the popup think. I'll try that :).
It's very logical that the popup only appears when you update something. No prob.
I do get the e-mails though, but it is quite a lot.
Something that just popped into my head: Would it be possible to use pop-ups whenever a new posting appears in a thread you're subscribed to? I now always get an e-mail when the 'what's happening on mb?' thread has an update. A Pop up would be very convenient :). I somehow don't think that's possible, but I'll just put it down here anyway.

Some folks may enjoy talking to themselves, indeed. But what about a message saying 'are you sure you want to...'.
Not sure if that's possible either, but I'm just saying :).

Members list: MEMBERS LIST!
And a list telling me what people are doing would be nice too.
I sometimes stay up too long waiting for a posting to come :D.

Are you keeping score? :D

I don't think having a lounge is affecting the music sections negatively at all. If people join this site to talk about music, then that's what they'll do. If they join the site to have general discussions in the non-music forums, then that's what they'll do. If they want to do both, then guess what...

The fact that both exist on the same site isn't a problem. Those who are here for music discussion shouldn't have any issues with unrelated conversations that are going on in non-music sections. If they do, then perhaps they should evaluate their own priorities...

Like I said, we should compile a list of bbcodes that support this. They're available via a google search. If everyone searches around and finds what they'd like to have included, they can post those codes and we can include it in the list.

It would be just as possible as a PM popup, which we have. But I personally think that just a dynamic notification in the welcome section where you see "unread" PMs and the like, would take care of the issue.. since if you're subscribed to a thread, you'd have a "new notifications" link right under "private messages". But if others think there should be a popup for notifications that you can enable in your settings, that would behave just like the PM popups behave, then I'm all for that too.

I'm only giving my opinion on the matter. Not to say that anything can change or what, because I do understand why both are currently on the site. And sure, I suppose people can choose to post in the lounge, or post in the music sections. But it can get annoying when there is more off topic discussion going on then actual music discussion, which is what a majority of people would come here to talk about. Not saying there is none, because i've gotten into some now, but the off topic discussions seem to be getting more and more ridiculous.

But like I said, I could be one of few people who think that.

I don't mind the non music discussions so much.
the only time it gets boring is when people just constantly talk about themselves all the time. Like from going to the your day thread to the what drug did you last snort thread to the when did you last take it up the arse thread to the bitch box to the what fruit did you last buy thread to the tell us about ever sexual partner you've ever had in your life thread to the when was the last time you sat on your fat arse for 10 minutes & did nothing thread.

That's when people annoy me.

Then your issue lies more with people's tendencies, rather than the forum construct they're subject to. I don't think that's something you can address in this thread...

Keep coming up with suggestions, people, and debate them. Let's try to get some solid ideas to add to the list.

I'll be back periodically to address any specific inquiries if necessary, but the other senior mods (and especially ex mods: Right-Track, Urban Hatemonger, Bulldog, etc.) should be able to answer questions or address issues in regards to known MB information as well, if they desire. And, as always, we have a wealth of tech-savvy folks in the community to help put technical matters into perspective.

It would be great if we had some way of knowing we had received a new visitor message. Maybe in the same box that tells us when we have new PMs?

Yeah, that would be nice! The notifications in the CP tends to blend in with everything else on the page so I don't always see them.

Thirded. A forum that I used to post on a lot had this exact feature.

One of my favorite features on other forums I frequent is the "View your posts" button. The name is misleading, however, because it doesn't actually show you your individual posts, it shows you threads that you have posted in, sorted by those with the newest posts at the top.

It's really handy for seeing all the topics you've been active in recently and quickly viewing/responding to them.

Fourth supportive vote for a notification for profile comments.

I will be sleeping on this in general, and trying to think of anything useful to implement, but I'm more or less satisfied with the forum. My needs are modest, and I adjust rather easily to new forum templates.

I think this would (should) be included in the "new notification" link that would pop up in the welcome area on the top right, right under the private message notification, and also include an option to enable a pop-up window for alert.

As long as there's something notifying you to click on that link to bring you to your CP, where the actual notifications are, I think that would do. Did you have something else in mind regarding that?