Musicbanter Improvement Thread

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Things are quiet at the moment so we're going to hold off moderating anybody for now.

[Key]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Things are quiet at the moment so we're going to hold off moderating anybody for now.

Makes sense. I saw that the thread had closed so I assumed it was put on hold. Just wanted to be sure.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

That's still being discussed at the moment, but at this stage it appears that we really don't need another mod like we initially thought. We are managing the work fine and Conan was away from MB quite often so it's not a huge difference. We do appreciate the submissions though and will definitely consider the candidates for when we do decide we need someone (i.e. if a mod steps down, etc).

[VEGANGELICA]

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

We do follow it. We're also human and not robots and occasionally might say something out of turn, but then we've never banned or infracted a member for saying one thing out of turn either.
Like I've said endlessly in the past we give people chances. Sometimes they need to be told to cool off sometimes they don't. We treat people like adults not kids.

I also seem to remember with some of the people did constantly ignore warnings and were banned for this, you were the first person to defend them and say they should be given another chance.

What makes you think it's not being enforced already?

How many pictures do you think I should allow before I start throwing out bans or infractions? 1? 2? 3? 4?

Thanks for your reply.

True, I oppose banning legitimate members. (By legitimate members, I mean members who are here primarily to discuss music.)

This is consistent with my view that people who violate the rules such as the rule against rudeness/namecalling and the rule against meaningless or short posts should be warned, not banned. I don't feel legitimate members who post pictures to ridicule others should be *banned*, but they should be reminded of the rules and encouraged to follow them.

I have not seen mods encouraging people to stop creating picture-containing posts that ridicule members in music threads. I've also seen rudeness not addressed consistently, since sometimes you and other mods appear to be rude often enough that I feel this may overshadow the many times you are supportive of members at the site.

That is the reason I think the rules I quoted earlier are not being enforced consistently. By enforce, I don't mean "ban"; I mean politely reminding people of a rule and encouraging them to follow it.

What is the rule about creating sock puppet accounts to ridicule people? And if a mod knows who created the sock puppet account, will that individual be asked to stop?

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I have not seen mods encouraging people to stop creating picture-containing posts that ridicule members in music threads.

I've done it on several occasions in the music forums.
You don't know this because you can't see deleted posts.

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I've also seen rudeness not addressed consistently

You don't know that either, just because you don't see it addressed publicly doesn't mean nothing has been done.

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

What is the rule about creating sock puppet accounts to ridicule people? And if a mod knows who created the sock puppet account, will that individual be asked to stop?

Depends

If it's done in a light hearted way we'll laugh about it then ask them not to use the account again.

If it's done in a malicious way they'll get a permaban on the spot.

People need to understand it's not so much the offence we take action on, it's the context in which it's done.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Thanks for your reply.

Thanks for not replying me.

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

True, I oppose banning legitimate members. (By legitimate members, I mean members who are here primarily to discuss music.)

This is consistent with my view that people who violate the rules such as the rule against rudeness/namecalling and the rule against meaningless or short posts should be warned, not banned. I don't feel legitimate members who post pictures to ridicule others should be *banned*, but they should be reminded of the rules and encouraged to follow them.

I have not seen mods encouraging people to stop creating picture-containing posts that ridicule members in music threads. I've also seen rudeness not addressed consistently, since sometimes you and other mods appear to be rude often enough that I feel this may overshadow the many times you are supportive of members at the site.

That is the reason I think the rules I quoted earlier are not being enforced consistently. By enforce, I don't mean "ban"; I mean politely reminding people of a rule and encouraging them to follow it.

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean nothing is being done. Unless you were a mod, you wouldn't know that. I'm quite frankly over your consistent negative attitude to how we do our jobs. In regards to pictures mocking others, I personally don't have a problem with someone posting a facepalm because another member has said something ignorant/ridiculous/whatever. If it is malicious, sure it's not cool and we mods deal with that discreetly. We don't prance around the board blowing up at people for breaking the rules just so people will know we are doing something about it. Do you get this now? Please don't repeat the same point again because then I will know you are not in anyway interested in believing what we are telling you. We are not the enemy. Feck, I love this forum and have met some amazing people on it. I would not want another member to spoil it for everyone so feel it's my duty as a mod to apply the rules where necessary.

I don't get the feeling you believe in second chances? Yet when a spammer comes onto the board and kicks a fuss you are on top of us like a ton of bricks for banning them. Time to just trust us Vege.

[sopsych]

Fine, let the "Facepalm" image stay, in moderation. I'm all for banning spammers. Also, I very much want forum change, because I don't love this forum. It's not friendly or active enough.

[Burning Down]

Originally Posted by sopsych

Fine, let the "Facepalm" image stay, in moderation. I'm all for banning spammers. Also, I very much want forum change, because I don't love this forum. It's not friendly or active enough.

To be honest, all your complaining is not helping to raise the morale of this place to a level that you'd consider acceptable. So how about you start by projecting a more positive attitude around the forum and also when you present your ideas here. It's as simple as that.

[Powerstars]

Something for the album reviews category...a request thread. People can request albums that they want reviewed. Each person can only have one album on the list at a time. Once an album gets reviewed, it's taken off of the list and the person can request another album to be reviewed.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by Powerstars

Something for the album reviews category...a request thread. People can request albums that they want reviewed. Each person can only have one album on the list at a time. Once an album gets reviewed, it's taken off of the list and the person can request another album to be reviewed.

If you want to do that you can.
You don't need permission to start a thread.