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Terrible Lizard · 08-09-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

well if that isn't a huge fucking inequity. then again i suppose it's somehow less offensive to say things like:

spic, wop, kike, beaner, chink, gringo, gook, raghead, wog?

at any rate, abrogating free speech for the sake of an ethnic slur is idiotic. people will find a way to inject malice into their vocabulary without the likes of racial epithets.

if you're going to forcibly trim accepted vocabulary, do it under the auspices of curtailing flaming instead of preventing people from seeing something they might find offensive.

when it's offensive BECAUSE it's inflammatory, remove it.

Forgot nick, and yid if you want to really stir the pot.

Didn't know you liked Robbie Basho.

crash_override · 08-09-2009, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

well if that isn't a huge fucking inequity. then again i suppose it's somehow less offensive to say things like:

spic, wop, kike, beaner, chink, gringo, gook, raghead, wog?

at any rate, abrogating free speech for the sake of an ethnic slur is idiotic. people will find a way to inject malice into their vocabulary without the likes of racial epithets.

if you're going to forcibly trim accepted vocabulary, do it under the auspices of curtailing flaming instead of preventing people from seeing something they might find offensive.

when it's offensive BECAUSE it's inflammatory, remove it.

The best thing you've ever posted. I second this 100%.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-09-2009, 06:50 AM

Whether you agree with it or not isn't the issue here.

This is a decision thats been made for the good of the forum regardless of individual opinion.

Any racist comments are not allowed. It's not up for debate, there's no grey area. That's how things are. End of story.

right-track · 08-09-2009, 07:23 AM

^ And I second this post 100%.

While it's not being used, no-one's offended.
If no-one's offended, then there are no complaints.
No complaints...everybody's happy.

Son of JayJamJah · 08-09-2009, 11:11 AM

It's a good rule, I never use it, in part because I remember what it was like in the 1960's and early 70's in particular, but mostly because I know how offensive it is to people today. I just see no reason to say a word, that is never essential to conversation for me, if it's likely to offend someone.

Those other slurs Lucifer Sam mentioned are different in my experience, I also don't use those, but I've met someone of the race they are slurring that was offended by it. Also none of them are nearly as prevalent within daily life where I and most of the members of musicbanter live. While I agree with the sentiment of your post Sam I see this as a worthy exception that regardless of it's merits purely on equity does the site no harm and potentially a lot of good.

It's not about abrogating free speech it's about abrogating pointless emotional arguments, or what I think is now called "flame wars".

That's how I see it anyway, does that make sense to you?...anyone else?

Dr_Rez · 08-13-2009, 01:30 AM

Personally I dont see how this is even in debate. Like any website this forum needs new members to stay alive. With slurs like the ones mentioned littering the site, less people are sure to join, much less stay. This is a music forum, and If you need to type any of those things there plenty of other places on the internet for that.

Double X · 08-19-2009, 08:34 PM

This forum is private property...so is free speech really an issue anyways?

~~The Unfan~~ · 08-23-2009, 04:10 PM

Does this mean I'm not allowed to start a thread about The Niggers? What about mentioning the song She Ran With A Nigger by Johnny Rebel? Both actually involve discussing music, so they should be permitted, right?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-23-2009, 04:26 PM

Yes they can. I don't remember anyone getting warned for talking about the Nas album when he wanted to call it that.

But naming song titles or band names is the only time it'll be tolerated.

FETCHER. · 08-23-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's not about bracketing people. You can have as much involvement with the site as you want. All this will be is an incentive to get people to stick around for longer. It isn't about labelling people as noobs & banning them from getting involved. In fact I think the whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

All it means is that people who have been here a long time and have contributed get to post in 32 forums as opposed to the 31 forums everybody else is allowed posts in. I hardly think thats much of a big deal.

i never knew there was secret forums, so what does the average member have to achieve to have access to these?

08-09-2009, 06:50 AM	#393 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Whether you agree with it or not isn't the issue here. This is a decision thats been made for the good of the forum regardless of individual opinion. Any racist comments are not allowed. It's not up for debate, there's no grey area. That's how things are. End of story. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-13-2009, 01:30 AM	#396 (permalink)
Dr_Rez Registered Jimmy Rustler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,360	Personally I dont see how this is even in debate. Like any website this forum needs new members to stay alive. With slurs like the ones mentioned littering the site, less people are sure to join, much less stay. This is a music forum, and If you need to type any of those things there plenty of other places on the internet for that. __________________ Best chance of losing virginity is in prison crew Always Checks Credentials Crew nba > nfl crew Shave one of my legs to pretend its a girl in my bed crew

08-23-2009, 04:26 PM	#399 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Yes they can. I don't remember anyone getting warned for talking about the Nas album when he wanted to call it that. But naming song titles or band names is the only time it'll be tolerated. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-09-2009, 07:23 AM	#394 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	^ And I second this post 100%. While it's not being used, no-one's offended. If no-one's offended, then there are no complaints. No complaints...everybody's happy.

08-19-2009, 08:34 PM	#397 (permalink)
Double X sleepe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: boston Posts: 1,140	This forum is private property...so is free speech really an issue anyways?

08-23-2009, 04:10 PM	#398 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	Does this mean I'm not allowed to start a thread about The Niggers? What about mentioning the song She Ran With A Nigger by Johnny Rebel? Both actually involve discussing music, so they should be permitted, right?