New Subforum.
 

May i suggest a new subforum to the rock forum? New Wave/Psychobilly are two genres that have a lot of appeal but limited coverage, im sure theres fans of both on this site and i've struggled to find a relevant forum to post such threads on these two genres. So i think its appropriate?

boo boo failed at getting a prog subforum, i failed at getting a general sports subforum,................good luck.

But prog can be sen as a direct type of rock. And sports belongs in the lounge. New Wave and Pschobilly are completely different. I shall insist nonethless. If Emo can gets its own forum so can my suggestions.

you can try, but it aint gonna happen.

i agree led zep stu, it would be a good adition, its definatley a whoel different thing

so you guys think "psychobilly" (which half the people here most likely have never even heard of) is more popular than progressive rock or any sport?

no but new wave is

I don't think it's necessary. The best way to get a new forum is make threads on the whatever it is you want. If your threads are successful then you can say "Hey admins this is pretty popular make a me sub forum god dammit" or the threads will be dead and then you'll get you're answer that this place just shouldn't have it.

The point of a music forum isnt just to talk about music, its to educate and expand peoples horizons. I think it would be great for people on this site if a new wave/psychobilly subforum was created, their both important and hugely interesting movements in music so why not? whats the harm in creating new forums? I think the more the better. psychobilly/new wave having its own forum will give both more coverage and generate more debate - all to often very good threads get lost in the sea of threads we have on here.

such as (in reference to new wave/psychobilly)?

look on the indie forum. ive made at least 3 on psychobilly in the last week but people are more interested in what other people look like or who wants to shag who. If a subforum is made it'll make people notice and they can learn about it or just enjoy discussion if their already fans. i know there are people here who would appreciate it. And if it dont work, fine, remove it.

New Wave and Psychobilly = Go in punk.

And if you made good threads perhaps people would look into these bands.

**** off they do. Psychobilly derives from rockabilly - absolutely nothing punk about that at all. their completely different. And New Wave is also nothing like punk. Although it adopted a similiar mentality, New wave was based upon angular, experimental, lyrically complex stylings with an emphasis on polished production whereas punk was based upon the garage rock ethos. Completely different.

I'm sorry, next time i'll talk about willies and vaginas and maybe that'll get peoples attention.

Folk Forum or rather anything that isn't the rock/metal forum. Just make threads right now you can make a thread for each like theemobandthing, where you post bands of the genre that people should be on about, and if people respond well you'll get your forum.

Psychobilly is a essentially a mix of Rockabilly and Punk, something like The Cramps, The Meteors. New Wave, similar to post punk may not sound punk but generally it is mostly associated with the music. Just like a band like Wire or The Ex are punk bands even though they are very experimental and adopt different music forms. Both these styles are also generally listened to by fans of punk music than fans of other genres.

well if you get a new wave/psychobilly subforum, then booboo should get a prog subforum, and I should get a general sports subforum.

and new wave or psychobilly is like folf is it? so the folf forum died on its arse, does that mean this one will? you cant just assume this. Their completely different with different qualities. Talking heads, television, devo, patti smith and the B-52s, Fun Boy Three, Costello, the modern lovers, talk talk, wire, gang of four and XTC are all bands seen as new wave who dont get much attention on here at all. thats what new wave forum would give - more coverage. And psychobilly is just brilliant and its a genre more people need to hear. its just think its worth a try.

i agree with you there.

but although some of us may have a legitimate point, every other member would want to start their own subforum as well.

Most of those bands aren't new wave or even from the same era.

both have punk attitudes, but their sound is not punk. Rockabilly is the dominating influence in psychobilly whilst horror themes and psychobeat are also evident, and im sorry but whether their seen in the same light or not New Wave and punk are NOTHING alike

but they may not have legitimate points. whereas i think the 3 suggestions in question do.

they may not have a legitimate point, but they will bitch and moan until they are pacified.

then its upto the moderators to be strong enough to say no. But i also think they should give a chance to suggestions which have a legitimacy.

I`ve started plenty of threads about new wave bands , i`ve started plenty of sports threads.

Apart from the Football thread all of the sport ones died , basically only about 3 or 4 people talk about sport on a regular basis so I don`t think there`s any need for a forum.

A New Wave forum I wouldn`t mind because I listen to quite a lot of it , but there`s not been that much interest in the threads i`ve made. People look at them , they just don`t reply to them.

When sports posts take over the lounge & when new wave bands take over the indie / punk / general music forum then there will be grounds for an additional forum.

Firstly, this guy can't be taken seriously because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Secondly the more genre specific the forums get the less activity.

yeah, i dont have a clue what im talking when it comes to my two favourite forms of music. prove me wrong instead of just saying "you have no clue what your talking".

New wave and psychobilly aren't popular enough genres here to warrant separate forums. Both genres are very closely related to punk music thus threads should be directed there, it's simple. I'm a bigger fan of post punk than anyone here and when I choose to make a thread I'll make it in the punk forum.

http://www.last.fm/group/Obscure+Post-Punk+and+New+Wave

you havent actually backed up in any way your point that i dont know what im talking about. All you've done is stated a differing opinion, and its a valid opinion, they do both have elements of punk. But the element is not big enough to be put in punk. its that simple to me. Psychobilly is so much more than punk, it has so many more influences (more important influences) to it. Screamin Jay Hawkins and Stray Cats are seen as the two innovators of the genre and their rooted in the blues and rockabilly movements. The punk element is just the attitude that goes with it. It has no musical similiarities to me at all. New Wave is completely different from punk in terms of sound. Completely. production and structure are two key components in new wave whereas in punk their probably the least two important. Its your choivce where you want to put such threads, but i disagree with you completely.

And that link means nothing. Post Punk AND New Wave. New Wave came straight out of the Punk Movement, so what?

You called Television, Patti Smith and The Modern Lovers new wave, which they aren't although they had some influence. All artists released/recorded their classic albums before new wave was even thought about. Marquee Moon, Modern Lovers S/T and Horses were all recorded by at least 1975. That's why you don't know what you're talking about.

from a view of hindsight they are seen as new wave because they are the instigators of the movement. Definetly in the case of television though modern lovers could be seen as more protopunk. Television were an art-rock band that ties closely in with new wave. they are widely regarded as one of the main founders which is why i see them as new wave.

By what you have said in this thread The Clash on London Calling and subsequent albums should be classified as a new wave band. A band can be a punk band and not have to sound like the Sex Pistols.

thats just idiotic. Im fully aware of this, im not some 10 year old who recently found out Green Day are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Television to me ARE New Wave because of the overwhelming influence they've had on it. They in my eyes were not punk, they were art-rock which laid the foundations for what was to become New Wave. they formed in '73, they were around before punk was even in. Although they were the group that kicked off the CBGB scene i just dont think their sound is punk. Hells stuff with the Voidoids and Heartbreakers is punk, but with television...no. That doesnt mean no other band can be classified as punk. Your just clasping at straws knowing fully well i have a very valid point in the extensive differences between new wave and punk. :laughing:

Of course their are differences, that's why it's called New Wave and not Punk. Categorically though, it's just an offshoot of punk, just as hardcore is an offshoot of punk. Or post punk. They all fall under the umbrella term of punk because that was what they were influenced by and were part of and was the link between all the different bands. The Slits could incorporate dub and The Scientists could incorporate blues but what linked these bands together was the fact that they were influenced by punk. The same applies to psychobilly and that's why all these bands should be put in the punk forum.

New Wave i'd accept appearing in the punk forum if i had to. But Psychobilly? No ****ing way. thats ridiculous. Its so empirically different to punk. so what if it is rockabilly with a punk attitude? its ROCKABILLY. With an overwhelming influence from horror films and literature. It also incorporates surf and garage rock. Its just close enough to punk. If i dont get this subforum the only place im placing threads on psychobilly is in the General music forum.

Most of the bands are punk bands with some rockabilly influences with the exception of the early influences on the genre. The Quakes, Guana Batz, Mad Sin and Demented Are Go right though to the bands popular today like Tiger Army and Nekromantix are all pretty much just punk bands. The only stuff you could say wasn't punk influenced was stuff like The Reverend Horton Heat which I wouldn't classify as psychobilly really. Pretty much all these bands played with other punk bands and were on generally punk labels. Personally I think most of it is boring shit and not worth listening to anyway.