New Subforum. (blues, hardcore, punk, rock, genre)

Sneer · 11-04-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hiu

Psychobilly is a essentially a mix of Rockabilly and Punk, something like The Cramps, The Meteors. New Wave, similar to post punk may not sound punk but generally it is mostly associated with the music. Just like a band like Wire or The Ex are punk bands even though they are very experimental and adopt different music forms. Both these styles are also generally listened to by fans of punk music than fans of other genres.

both have punk attitudes, but their sound is not punk. Rockabilly is the dominating influence in psychobilly whilst horror themes and psychobeat are also evident, and im sorry but whether their seen in the same light or not New Wave and punk are NOTHING alike

Sneer · 11-04-2006, 08:03 PM

but they may not have legitimate points. whereas i think the 3 suggestions in question do.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-04-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

but they may not have legitimate points. whereas i think the 3 suggestions in question do.

they may not have a legitimate point, but they will bitch and moan until they are pacified.

Sneer · 11-04-2006, 08:08 PM

then its upto the moderators to be strong enough to say no. But i also think they should give a chance to suggestions which have a legitimacy.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-04-2006, 08:08 PM

I`ve started plenty of threads about new wave bands , i`ve started plenty of sports threads.

Apart from the Football thread all of the sport ones died , basically only about 3 or 4 people talk about sport on a regular basis so I don`t think there`s any need for a forum.

A New Wave forum I wouldn`t mind because I listen to quite a lot of it , but there`s not been that much interest in the threads i`ve made. People look at them , they just don`t reply to them.

When sports posts take over the lounge & when new wave bands take over the indie / punk / general music forum then there will be grounds for an additional forum.

~~hiu~~ · 11-04-2006, 08:10 PM

Firstly, this guy can't be taken seriously because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Secondly the more genre specific the forums get the less activity.

Sneer · 11-04-2006, 08:12 PM

yeah, i dont have a clue what im talking when it comes to my two favourite forms of music. prove me wrong instead of just saying "you have no clue what your talking".

~~hiu~~ · 11-04-2006, 08:26 PM

New wave and psychobilly aren't popular enough genres here to warrant separate forums. Both genres are very closely related to punk music thus threads should be directed there, it's simple. I'm a bigger fan of post punk than anyone here and when I choose to make a thread I'll make it in the punk forum.

http://www.last.fm/group/Obscure+Post-Punk+and+New+Wave

Sneer · 11-04-2006, 08:32 PM

you havent actually backed up in any way your point that i dont know what im talking about. All you've done is stated a differing opinion, and its a valid opinion, they do both have elements of punk. But the element is not big enough to be put in punk. its that simple to me. Psychobilly is so much more than punk, it has so many more influences (more important influences) to it. Screamin Jay Hawkins and Stray Cats are seen as the two innovators of the genre and their rooted in the blues and rockabilly movements. The punk element is just the attitude that goes with it. It has no musical similiarities to me at all. New Wave is completely different from punk in terms of sound. Completely. production and structure are two key components in new wave whereas in punk their probably the least two important. Its your choivce where you want to put such threads, but i disagree with you completely.

And that link means nothing. Post Punk AND New Wave. New Wave came straight out of the Punk Movement, so what?

~~hiu~~ · 11-04-2006, 08:51 PM

You called Television, Patti Smith and The Modern Lovers new wave, which they aren't although they had some influence. All artists released/recorded their classic albums before new wave was even thought about. Marquee Moon, Modern Lovers S/T and Horses were all recorded by at least 1975. That's why you don't know what you're talking about.

11-04-2006, 08:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
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11-04-2006, 08:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	then its upto the moderators to be strong enough to say no. But i also think they should give a chance to suggestions which have a legitimacy. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

11-04-2006, 08:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I`ve started plenty of threads about new wave bands , i`ve started plenty of sports threads. Apart from the Football thread all of the sport ones died , basically only about 3 or 4 people talk about sport on a regular basis so I don`t think there`s any need for a forum. A New Wave forum I wouldn`t mind because I listen to quite a lot of it , but there`s not been that much interest in the threads i`ve made. People look at them , they just don`t reply to them. When sports posts take over the lounge & when new wave bands take over the indie / punk / general music forum then there will be grounds for an additional forum. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

11-04-2006, 08:12 PM	#27 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	yeah, i dont have a clue what im talking when it comes to my two favourite forms of music. prove me wrong instead of just saying "you have no clue what your talking". __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

11-04-2006, 08:32 PM	#29 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	you havent actually backed up in any way your point that i dont know what im talking about. All you've done is stated a differing opinion, and its a valid opinion, they do both have elements of punk. But the element is not big enough to be put in punk. its that simple to me. Psychobilly is so much more than punk, it has so many more influences (more important influences) to it. Screamin Jay Hawkins and Stray Cats are seen as the two innovators of the genre and their rooted in the blues and rockabilly movements. The punk element is just the attitude that goes with it. It has no musical similiarities to me at all. New Wave is completely different from punk in terms of sound. Completely. production and structure are two key components in new wave whereas in punk their probably the least two important. Its your choivce where you want to put such threads, but i disagree with you completely. And that link means nothing. Post Punk AND New Wave. New Wave came straight out of the Punk Movement, so what? __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

11-04-2006, 08:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	Firstly, this guy can't be taken seriously because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Secondly the more genre specific the forums get the less activity.

11-04-2006, 08:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	New wave and psychobilly aren't popular enough genres here to warrant separate forums. Both genres are very closely related to punk music thus threads should be directed there, it's simple. I'm a bigger fan of post punk than anyone here and when I choose to make a thread I'll make it in the punk forum. http://www.last.fm/group/Obscure+Post-Punk+and+New+Wave

11-04-2006, 08:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	You called Television, Patti Smith and The Modern Lovers new wave, which they aren't although they had some influence. All artists released/recorded their classic albums before new wave was even thought about. Marquee Moon, Modern Lovers S/T and Horses were all recorded by at least 1975. That's why you don't know what you're talking about.