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Old 05-15-2015, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I know a lot of people consider the US Festival in 1983 was considered the death of punk & new wave and hard rock & metal took over.

You had The Clash headlining the friday night who had virtually fallen apart and given up at this point. In fact even at the end of the gig there was a fist fight between Strummer and security. Mick Jones left the band straight after and never came back.

And then Van Halen played the next night and blew them offstage with Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ozzy, Priest & The Scorpions backing them and basically replaced The Clash as the biggest band in the U.S. overnight.

That's pretty much when rock music became mainstream, all those bands had platinum albums after playing that show.
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As opposed to Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, the Rolling Stones, etc? It might not be as up front a thing as it was before grunge made the rock'n'roll lifestyle uncool, but until then, that was just all part of the mystique. Motley Crue just took it to its logical conclusion. Even Lemmy has been quoted as saying that anyone who joins a band does it for the women first, and the music second. Take that for what it is, but if Lemmy says it, you probably can't really say he's totally wrong.
Touche, Batty.

All of that, I've thought as well. I know, would be the more accurate thing to say.

Who really would argue against Lemmy? I couldn't count the number of musicians or people that respect that guy.

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Van Halen played the next night and blew them offstage with Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ozzy, Priest & The Scorpions backing them and basically replaced The Clash as the biggest band in the U.S. overnight.

That's pretty much when rock music became mainstream, all those bands had platinum albums after playing that show.
The Scorpions, love that bad. Klaus has one hell of a voice. I owned a Quite Riot on cassette as a kid. I think I could find it if I dug around at my parents place.
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I owned a Quite Riot on cassette as a kid. I think I could find it if I dug around at my parents place.
I wouldn't bother, just download a Slade album.
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I wouldn't bother, just download a Slade album.
Or just go steal "Metal Health", "Cum On Feel the Noize", and "Slick Black Cadillac", and call it a night.
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Or just go steal "Metal Health", "Cum On Feel the Noize", and "Slick Black Cadillac", and call it a night.
Don't forget "Gudbuy t'Jane".
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I know a lot of people consider the US Festival in 1983 was considered the death of punk & new wave and hard rock & metal took over.

You had The Clash headlining the friday night who had virtually fallen apart and given up at this point. In fact even at the end of the gig there was a fist fight between Strummer and security. Mick Jones left the band straight after and never came back.

And then Van Halen played the next night and blew them offstage with Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ozzy, Priest & The Scorpions backing them and basically replaced The Clash as the biggest band in the U.S. overnight.

That's pretty much when rock music became mainstream, all those bands had platinum albums after playing that show.
I remember reading about that show in Motley Crue's autobiography, and they pretty much said the same thing (sans the stuff about the Clash), that that's when metal really took over. Shout at the Devil went platinum -- which is pretty crazy when you consider that out of all those other bands, Motley probably had the most radio unfriendly album, without any obvious singles. Before that they were just some skuzzy band living in a roach-infested apartment, who nobody outside of the Sunset Strip had even heard of.

As far as I'm concerned, the early rise of glam metal is as unlikely a success story as grunge. There wasn't really a decade of a single genre dominating the airwaves in desperate need of dying to create such a backlash, so the about face was actually pretty random considering that it had only been a few years since solos and straight-up rock had become a sin.

On another note, Motley Crue were actually my first show back in the mid-late 00s, and they blew Aerosmith off the stage. Granted, Aerosmith were doing that self-indulgent thing where they played boring blues jams, and Steven Tyler kept playing that ****ing harmonica rather than actually singing, but Motley Crue still killed. Even though I was waiting in line for beer at the time, "Live Wire" was still epic as **** from halfway across the venue.
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Blew Aerosmith off the stage.
Saw Rick Derringer destroy Aerosmith in their own back yard in the late 70s. That band took getting wasted and trying to play an arena show to a whole new level back then. They "played" for about 45 minutes and then Tyler couldn't even make the 3 minute encore - which Perry sang.
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