Guybrush

Yeah, like Ken Scott did for Supertramp or Andy Powell did for Kate Bush. I mean, I'm sure she didn't come up with all those flute arrangements herself.

The producer having an influence on the sound is business as usual.

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Something Completely Different

Chula Vista

Not to the same degree at all. Have you seen the 'making of' documentary? Rock should have been given songwriting credits on every one of that album's tracks.

Again, not saying it's a bad thing - I like the album.

Scott's contributions to Supertramp were more in the sound department, not in directing them in what and how to play their instruments.

Have you read his book? It's a really great read.

http://www.amazon.com/Abbey-Road-Zig...ziggy+stardust

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Guybrush

I have read Ken Scott's book and yeah, it's pretty great

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Something Completely Different

Pet_Sounds

Um, I think Jansz is from Florida.

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Everybody's dying just to get the disease

The Batlord

No, you little Canadian scumbag. He's from Boston, and now he lives in Philadelphia. Yeah, I don't why he'd want to move from one ****hole to another either.

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Janszoon

I don't have a Boston accent. I mean literally every single time someone finds out I'm from there they say, "but you don't have the accent."

I've lived in Florida but I grew up in Boston.

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A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man

Time & Place

25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die

last.fm

Chula Vista

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

William_the_Bloody

I like the Black album as well, as for selling out, metal up to that time had always been about corporate rock and big arenas so most of the big thrash bands were putting out something more commercially accessible at this point.

Metallica saw an opportunity and they took it. They just happened to be more successful than Megadeth or Anthrax. After that they became soft millionaires who lost their edge.

Anyhow good review, cheers.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Never really understood the whole selling out thing with this album.

It's not like they hadn't done ballads before.

Plus it's a damn sight better than And Justice For All which was terrible.
When you listen to the drums on that album then go and listen to the drums on Motley Crue's Doctor Feelgood album you can totally understand why they bought in Bob Rock to produce it.

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The Batlord

I stopped asking myself whether it was a sellout album a long time ago. Honestly, I don't really care anymore. I'm not a particularly big fan of the album, and I don't really like much that came after it, so does it really matter one way or the other?

Besides, if this failed attempt at a radio single on their second album doesn't show you that Metallica were never an underground-for-the-sake-of-being-underground band, then you need to reevaluate your evaluations.

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