Metallica - Death Magnetic

Unknown Soldier · 10-21-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

St Anger roolz

people who say otherwise are pretentious and/or trolling

I'm a big fan of the title track, think it's a killer.

I agree too many trolls and dipsticks roaming the Metallica threads these days

Rjinn · 10-21-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

St Anger roolz

people who say otherwise are pretentious and/or trolling

Would make a better album than St. Anger. :P

Mojo · 10-21-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wuzzly

are you seriously judging my post based on the numbers of posts I've made.
wow

It may not be right to judge you based on your post count but I will say that, for me at least, I wouldn't be surprised if people judge you based on the fact that you're new here and have brought an argumentative attitude into this thread while being dismissive of the opinions of others. There is such a thing as standing behind your opinion while making it clear in the way you are posting that it is your opinion.

Basically, while you're entitled to your opinion and expected to share it, people will dismiss you and be quick to judge you if you are dismissive of them and make it seem as though you believe that you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

I love the first four Metallica albums, I like The Black Album, I'm hot and cold on Load and Reload, I hate St. Anger and I actually rather like Death Magentic, even if does seem like a rehash of their roots. It's easy to have a more positive opinion when you stop comparing a new release to the bands heyday more than twenty years previous. Metallica are never, ever going to be that band again and personally I can't see the point in even comparing it to their first three or four albums.

Unknown Soldier · 10-21-2012, 08:48 AM

I think all the Metallica albums are either classic, very good or accomplished. The only poor albums I think they did are ReLoad and parts of St.Anger and I'm not even a Metallica fan! I think Death Magnetic was a real return to form.

Mojo · 10-21-2012, 08:55 AM

I think it is somewhat tired and unimaginitive in the sense that St. Anger struck me as an attempt at Metallica changing to take advantage of a new market, a new generation of young metal fans and Death Magnetic was a response to their critics and a move back toward their roots and their existing fans which seemed somewhat cheap and recycled. It always seemed like Metallica going right back into their comfort zone.

Having said that, I really don't analyse so much when forming my opinion on that record. Metallica's heyday has been and gone. I don't look back at their first three or four records when forming an opinion on the new record as, for me, thats redundant. I look at everything post-AJFA and Death Magnetic, to me, is a decent, enjoyable metal record that sounds pretty good live.

That's good enough for me.

Unknown Soldier · 10-21-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

I think it is somewhat tired and unimaginitive in the sense that St. Anger struck me as an attempt at Metallica changing to take advantage of a new market, a new generation of young metal fans and Death Magnetic was a response to their critics and a move back toward their roots and their existing fans which seemed somewhat cheap and recycled. It always seemed like Metallica going right back into their comfort zone.

Having said that, I really don't analyse so much when forming my opinion on that record. Metallica's heyday has been and gone. I don't look back at their first three or four records when forming an opinion on the new record as, for me, thats redundant. I look at everything post-AJFA and Death Magnetic, to me, is a decent, enjoyable metal record that sounds pretty good live.

That's good enough for me.

As I was trying to say earlier but it fell on deaf ears I think, is that the Black Album was the prefect execution of a melodic heavy album and a heavily stripped down affair at the same time, it has some stellar tracks and achieved what it was meant to do, it's not great but certainly not bad. As one of the biggest bands in the world Load was the work of a band indulging in some southern boogie and again they did it very well, ReLoad were just the leftovers. On St.Anger they tried to do a Black Album again by trying to capture the some of the modern trends in metal at that time, but Metallica updating their sound to incoporate current Nu-Metal trends was always going to be a risky and hard thing to do.

Rjinn · 10-21-2012, 09:21 AM

I guess what others want to hear is Metallica at their full potential. They had it, and we know they still have because we've heard it. I'm not saying they should sound the same, just expand the boundaries around. They could of improvised what they had going, but instead followed down to produce lower quality music under their own abilities.

There are always going to be expectations of a band depending on what you hear, and obviously these expectations are a drive forward from what they've got. I guess that's why it's such a let down, because it wasn't seen as satisfying. I agree that the comparisons between actually ignores the album as a stand alone, which I think is unfair in a way. Most fans of any band will go back to their roots, and I think in a way, in this case, it's a very personal thing.

Capz1990 · 03-02-2013, 02:30 PM

i think this album happens to be pretty good, i agree that the production could be better, but overall i like the album

my favorite song would have to be suicide and redemption

the riff, and little melody thing in the middle are F** awesome

Capz1990 · 03-02-2013, 02:32 PM

i like wherever i may roam and sad but true off the black album those are really good songs

ThatBlueFluffyDude · 03-16-2013, 11:25 AM

Your review is copy an pasted from Wikipedia article, I read it. The fact that you have got more convosation from your copy and paste than my full length review of a different album is BS. As for the album itself, Death Magnetic sounds very similar to ...And Justice For All musically. St. Anger was brilliant at the gritty sound they were trying to get (yes even the snare) but the fact was nobody wanted to hear the gritty songs Metallica produced, which made the album get a bad reputation. Death Magnetic was Metallica playing what they wanted to play since ReLoad and It's great.

10-21-2012, 08:55 AM	#75 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	I think it is somewhat tired and unimaginitive in the sense that St. Anger struck me as an attempt at Metallica changing to take advantage of a new market, a new generation of young metal fans and Death Magnetic was a response to their critics and a move back toward their roots and their existing fans which seemed somewhat cheap and recycled. It always seemed like Metallica going right back into their comfort zone. Having said that, I really don't analyse so much when forming my opinion on that record. Metallica's heyday has been and gone. I don't look back at their first three or four records when forming an opinion on the new record as, for me, thats redundant. I look at everything post-AJFA and Death Magnetic, to me, is a decent, enjoyable metal record that sounds pretty good live. That's good enough for me. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

10-21-2012, 09:21 AM	#77 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	I guess what others want to hear is Metallica at their full potential. They had it, and we know they still have because we've heard it. I'm not saying they should sound the same, just expand the boundaries around. They could of improvised what they had going, but instead followed down to produce lower quality music under their own abilities. There are always going to be expectations of a band depending on what you hear, and obviously these expectations are a drive forward from what they've got. I guess that's why it's such a let down, because it wasn't seen as satisfying. I agree that the comparisons between actually ignores the album as a stand alone, which I think is unfair in a way. Most fans of any band will go back to their roots, and I think in a way, in this case, it's a very personal thing. __________________ last.fm Last edited by Rjinn; 10-21-2012 at 11:55 AM.

03-02-2013, 02:30 PM	#78 (permalink)
Capz1990 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 40	i think this album happens to be pretty good, i agree that the production could be better, but overall i like the album my favorite song would have to be suicide and redemption the riff, and little melody thing in the middle are F** awesome

03-02-2013, 02:32 PM	#79 (permalink)
Capz1990 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 40	i like wherever i may roam and sad but true off the black album those are really good songs

03-16-2013, 11:25 AM	#80 (permalink)
ThatBlueFluffyDude Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 50	Your review is copy an pasted from Wikipedia article, I read it. The fact that you have got more convosation from your copy and paste than my full length review of a different album is BS. As for the album itself, Death Magnetic sounds very similar to ...And Justice For All musically. St. Anger was brilliant at the gritty sound they were trying to get (yes even the snare) but the fact was nobody wanted to hear the gritty songs Metallica produced, which made the album get a bad reputation. Death Magnetic was Metallica playing what they wanted to play since ReLoad and It's great.