Metallica - Death Magnetic

The Batlord · 10-16-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wuzzly

Edit: Really this topic has been discussed to hell and back. Most people agree that Metallica is an overall mediocre band; a few solid releases and a few really bad ones afterwards. Nothing else to really discuss.

Dude, their first four were classics. You can't call a band that was that good mediocre overall. Certainly they have been mediocre ever since, but they were most definitely not mediocre in their heyday.

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

Can you tell me which is that bad about The Black album?! That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. I hate it when people hate something due to their preconceptions. Metallica were sellouts, they changed their style, and such bull****. Of course they'll change, and they won't be like Slayer and Iron Maiden who are ''loyal to their fans'' and play the exact same thing for more than 30 years. Stop being limited and stop bitching about it. Of course AJFA and Master are their best, but that doesn't mean that the others are such crap at all. That man said it best:

It's a dumbed down version of And Justice for All that loses the impact of that album with boring, half-assed riff rock for dumb teenagers who'd be just as happy listening to Korn or Limp Bizkit or Slipknot or Avenged Sevenfold. Not to mention, "Enter Sandman", which is just a metal version of Foreigner. They were obviously running out of ideas when they released And Justice for All. You can hear that they didn't really know what to do besides just making Master of Puppets more progressive, so while AFJA had some amazing songs, they were starting to run on fumes. The only thing they could think to do after that was just dumb their music down and sell it to morons.

Rock N' Roll Clown · 10-16-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's a dumbed down version of And Justice for All that loses the impact of that album with boring, half-assed riff rock for dumb teenagers who'd be just as happy listening to Korn or Limp Bizkit or Slipknot or Avenged Sevenfold. Not to mention, "Enter Sandman", which is just a metal version of Foreigner. They were obviously running out of ideas when they released And Justice for All. You can hear that they didn't really know what to do besides just making Master of Puppets more progressive, so while AFJA had some amazing songs, they were starting to run on fumes. The only thing they could think to do after that was just dumb their music down and sell it to morons.

And still better than 90% of the metal music.

The Batlord · 10-17-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

And still better than 90% of the metal music.

Nah. It was good until all the singles become overplayed and most of the rest were never more than okay in the first place. The only song on there that doesn't bore me these days is "The Unforgiven". I actually like Load and Reload more than the Black Album. Arena rock dressed up as shallow alternative rock they may be, but well, I guess just being better than the Black album is all I can really say about them.

Wuzzly · 10-16-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Dude, their first four were classics. You can't call a band that was that good mediocre overall. Certainly they have been mediocre ever since, but they were most definitely not mediocre in their heyday.

Their first 4 releases are overrated. While they're not bad by any stretch of the imagination, they weren't even close to classics. Their best album was probably KEA.

FRED HALE SR. · 10-16-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wuzzly

Their first 4 releases are overrated. While they're not bad by any stretch of the imagination, they weren't even close to classics. Their best album was probably KEA.

I enjoy all of the four initial releases and even like Garage Days. I'd say the initial three were certainly instant classics. I popped in MOP this weekend and I listened to it all the way through, and its a fantastic album. I rarely listen to them anymore, but I still have my Metal Up Your Ass shirt hanging in the closet. Metallica ended their reign with AJFA but their legacy is secure in the first four albums, and its a significant legacy.

Forward To Death · 10-15-2012, 07:41 PM

The Black Album is as bad as Load/ReLoad and St. Anger.

Although, nothing is quite as hilariously attrocious as a couple of songs off of ReLoad. "The Memory Remains" (wtf is all I can say at the poppiness of this one) and "The Unforgiven II".

Or the documentary, which makes you lose any respect you could possibly have had for Metallica.

Wuzzly · 10-15-2012, 08:09 PM

I wouldn't say Black was that bad, but yeah, it was pretty bad.

Edit: Really this topic has been discussed to hell and back. Most people agree that Metallica is an overall mediocre band; a few solid releases and a few really bad ones afterwards. Nothing else to really discuss.

GuitarHeroFan101 · 10-16-2012, 04:18 AM

Well, I actually like Metallica's albums before Death Magnetic.

Justthefacts · 10-18-2012, 08:28 PM

Dude Death Magnetic is badass! Why the hate?

Wuzzly · 10-18-2012, 08:59 PM

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Dude Death Magnetic is badass! Why the hate?

Did you miss half the thread?

The riffs are dull, the drums were bland, Hetfield's vocals are horrendous, and the production is ass. The singles are decent at best, but once they got radioplay they were just plain overplayed.

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Wuzzly Groupie Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 31	I wouldn't say Black was that bad, but yeah, it was pretty bad. Edit: Really this topic has been discussed to hell and back. Most people agree that Metallica is an overall mediocre band; a few solid releases and a few really bad ones afterwards. Nothing else to really discuss. __________________ Check out my awful music taste. I like to rate music. i cn 420 smoke weed no scope u in calla dooty

10-15-2012, 07:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	The Black Album is as bad as Load/ReLoad and St. Anger. Although, nothing is quite as hilariously attrocious as a couple of songs off of ReLoad. "The Memory Remains" (wtf is all I can say at the poppiness of this one) and "The Unforgiven II". Or the documentary, which makes you lose any respect you could possibly have had for Metallica.

10-16-2012, 04:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
GuitarHeroFan101 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 41	Well, I actually like Metallica's albums before Death Magnetic.