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Old 09-30-2012, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Piper always gets mentioned in the same breath as The Wall, DSOTM and Wish You Were Here on anything that I've read about the band and on here it' s held in the same esteem as those albums, so I can hardly see it as being an "overlooked gem" Even the OP thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Of course Gilmour is going to be held in higher esteem, he's played on nearly all of the band's albums, whilst Syd only managed to play on one and a bit albums, before he was trollied off to the funny farm.
Here apparently it's not, but if I am going to go by what I've seen... Other forums I used to visit with music sections mostly held their concept albums as the pinnacle of their career. There were mentions of Piper here and there but not often. I admit I haven't come by any reviews of the album, so I can't comment there. Only a few articles I've read about Pink Floyd, that's about it.

Presently here in big parts of social society being involved with, including the bar/pub scene which is pretty big, they off course have albums or tracks from DSotM, The Wall, or WYWH, not their earlier work. From what I gather Pink Floyd are mostly known for their conceptuality rather than their psychedelic artistry which is the most prominent in Piper. I'm pretty sure a lot of people today get to Piper after being introduced to these dominating albums... or anything earlier for that matter.

I guess obviously the albums I'm comparing it to are the most commercially successful albums. People tend to stick to them. That was my angle.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In the documentary "Inside Pink Floyd" they said themselves that their early albums are very stupid and boring and they even wondered how they had managed to sell them.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Gotta watch that.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think Piper at the Gates of Dawn is a brilliant album; I just happen to prefer the 70's Gilmour albums. In the context of Pink Floyd albums it is underrated. When you stack it against their 70's material, Pipers seems comparatively obscure. Especially against Dark Side of the Moon, and The Wall, two albums which have received tremendous accolades. You can't spend even spend 5 minutes listening to a classic rock station without hearing a song from either album.

I'm not a big fan of The Syd Barret years, but I acknowledge the albums brilliance.

But I think two truly underrated Pink Floyd album are Atom Heart Mother and The Final Cut. Both of those albums receive a lot of criticism and I've spent plenty of hours enjoying both immensely.
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But I think two truly underrated Pink Floyd album are Atom Heart Mother and The Final Cut. Both of those albums receive a lot of criticism and I've spent plenty of hours enjoying both immensely.
I totally agree about both albums. Everything on Atom Heart Mother except "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" is fantastic and The Final Cut is like disc three of The Wall (which, to me, is a good thing).
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I totally agree about both albums. Everything on Atom Heart Mother except "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" is fantastic and The Final Cut is like disc three of The Wall (which, to me, is a good thing).
I've always had mixed emotions about The Wall which I've tried to convey many times. On one hand it's an absolute work of genius. On the other hand, it's beyond catharsis. There's no veil between artistic license and personal history. Listening to the album from start to finish can sometimes be like being paid by the hour to listen to Roger Waters tell you about how he got to be the ****ed up individual he currently is (I'm not implying anything about Roger Waters current mental health. For all I know he could be the most perfectly well adjusted human being on the face of planet Earth)

The Final Cut really conveys a lot of the same emotion that The Wall does without being quite so starkly candid. I definitely agree that it does seem like the third disc of The Wall and it may receive the criticism that it does because from a certain perspective it's just an epilogue to The Wall and a prelude to Roger Waters leaving the band and the ensuing legal nonsense. I think if their was another album between it and The Wall it would be seen as just a great Waters-centric Pink Floyd album, which it really is.
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The Final Cut really conveys a lot of the same emotion that The Wall does without being quite so starkly candid. I definitely agree that it does seem like the third disc of The Wall and it may receive the criticism that it does because from a certain perspective it's just an epilogue to The Wall and a prelude to Roger Waters leaving the band and the ensuing legal nonsense. I think if their was another album between it and The Wall it would be seen as just a great Waters-centric Pink Floyd album, which it really is.
this is me, knowin' that feel.

as a huge fan of A Momentary Lapse of Reason i can relate to being a fan of a Pink Floyd album that isn't one of their best. solidarity, my boyardee.
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I've always had mixed emotions about The Wall which I've tried to convey many times. On one hand it's an absolute work of genius. On the other hand, it's beyond catharsis. There's no veil between artistic license and personal history. Listening to the album from start to finish can sometimes be like being paid by the hour to listen to Roger Waters tell you about how he got to be the ****ed up individual he currently is (I'm not implying anything about Roger Waters current mental health. For all I know he could be the most perfectly well adjusted human being on the face of planet Earth)

The Final Cut really conveys a lot of the same emotion that The Wall does without being quite so starkly candid. I definitely agree that it does seem like the third disc of The Wall and it may receive the criticism that it does because from a certain perspective it's just an epilogue to The Wall and a prelude to Roger Waters leaving the band and the ensuing legal nonsense. I think if their was another album between it and The Wall it would be seen as just a great Waters-centric Pink Floyd album, which it really is.
Does it mean that you like the two Gilmour albums (Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell) more than the two Waters albums (The Wall and the Final Cut). If so, we are on the same page. I do appreciate Waters' work and his sometimes truly genius lyrics, but it can really overload your brain with his personal problems, just like you said. On the other hand, Gilmour's stuff isn't bad lyrically at all, and musically is better, especially than The Final Cut (The Wall has some of their best songs musically, though).
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1. Meddle
2. The Wall
3. Wish You Were Here
4. The Piper At the Gates of Dawn
5. Obscured By Clouds
6. Atom Heart Mother
7. Dark Side of the Moon
8. Animals
9. A Saucerful of Secrets
10.Ummagumma

It pains me to leave the More soundtrack off the list because Green is the Colour and Cymbaline are two of my favourite Pink Floyd songs.
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This is also where I felt the Progressive Rock approach kick in,
That's a strange thing to say! They'd been pretty much Prog from the Start. I'd even say Interstalla Overdrive, esp how they played it live, was the very start of Prog. If it wasn't then the title track from Saucerfiul of secrets was and then there's the title track of Atom Heart Mother and Echoes!
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