Pearl Jam: Ten- 1991

slatesphanboi · 02-20-2012, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

If you want to rock the boat, you're going to have to explain why you find MLB to be better a little more clearly.

1.) Andrew Wood is just a more entertaining front-man then Eddie Vedder. Vedder is always trying to be some damn serious and too political.

2.) Andrew Wood plays piano and writes hella' good ballads. Eddie Vedder does not.

3.) Don't like the direction that Pearl Jam went in after the album 'Vs.'.

I don't think MLB would have become some wussy college radio band like PJ did, but would have instead gone in some cool arena rock direction, think Queen or even (probably shouldn't even mention this one) KISS.

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The above mentioned song is actually a damn good song, but the rest of their catalogue consists of half-realized alt rock songs with a ton of wannabe Jane's Addiction rip offs and songs that I can honestly only classify as hair metal.

Hair Metal?

Some MLB songs sound like sleaze rock that could have been on the b-side to G' n R's Apetite for Destruction!

Bottom line:

MLB has always been more musically diverse than PJ! They got piano ballads, something PJ doesn't have and they have some good hard-rockers too, whilst PJ just made wussy stuff for college radio after 'Vs.'

Unknown Soldier · 02-20-2012, 04:45 AM

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1.) Andrew Wood is just a more entertaining front-man then Eddie Vedder. Vedder is always trying to be some damn serious and too political.

Since Andrew Wood modelled himself on Robert Plant that's no surprise really, Robert Plant was known for his excess. Also a vocalist taking on a political slant is nothing new.

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2.) Andrew Wood plays piano and writes hella' good ballads.

He sounds like Elton John.

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3.) Don't like the direction that Pearl Jam went in after the album 'Vs.'.

I do and it shows a band willing to evolve than just churning out the same thing.

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Bottom line:

MLB has always been more musically diverse than PJ! They got piano ballads, something PJ doesn't have and they have some good hard-rockers too, whilst PJ just made wussy stuff for college radio after 'Vs.'

Bottom line is actually this: You are comparing a band that just put out one studio album against a band with a sizeable discography, any band with a discography like PJ is going to have highs and lows, so its an unfair comparison. Quality wise, the MLB album probably sits in with some of the weaker PJ albums. As said you're just trying be a hipster here.

mr dave · 02-20-2012, 09:27 AM

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“Ten” was released in 1991 in the wake of Nirvana’s “Nevermind,”

Actually Ten was released a month before Nevermind so the wake is going the wrong way but everything else you say is spot on.

Release, Why Go?, and Once are the tracks that do it for me the most.

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Originally Posted by slatesphanboi

Hair Metal?

Some MLB songs sound like sleaze rock that could have been on the b-side to G' n R's Apetite for Destruction!

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I mean really... a Ricky Ricardo sound byte at the start LuuuuuCCCYYYY!!! EVERYTHING about that tracks reeks cheeseball hair metal. It doesn't sound like a B-side to Appetite for Destruction, it sounds like an original tune by a Iggy and the Stooges cover band playing it very safe.

slatesphanboi · 02-21-2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Since Andrew Wood modelled himself on Robert Plant that's no surprise really, Robert Plant was known for his excess. Also a vocalist taking on a political slant is nothing new.

He sounds like Elton John.

But Andrew Wood sounds like Robert Plant mixed with Elton John! A whole new unique mixture! YES!

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As said you're just trying be a hipster here.

LOL!

No I actually authentically like Andrew Wood and MBL alot more then PJ.

Look at the location part under my Avatar! I live in ground-zero of the grunge times and believe it or not Andrew Wood is literally worshipped around here. It is not uncommon for people to travel on over on a quasi-religious pilgrimage to Bremerton to visit his grave. I have friends that have done it, even.

Andrew Patrick Wood (1966 - 1990) - Find A Grave Memorial

Unknown Soldier · 02-22-2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by slatesphanboi

But Andrew Wood sounds like Robert Plant mixed with Elton John! A whole new unique mixture! YES!

Well, I'm glad you think so.

FRED HALE SR. · 02-22-2012, 12:34 PM

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Well, I'm glad you think so.

I agree with everything you said, I never cared for MLB whatsoever. I prefer PORCH and Release Me off of Ten. I think that what is so great about Ten is everyone has a different opinion on what the best song on the album is. Its an outstanding debut by one of the best rock acts of the 90's and on.

Howard the Duck · 02-24-2012, 07:05 AM

all I have to say that people who mention this album in the same breath as Nirvana's Nevermind (which I don't really like that much either), Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and Alice in Chains' Dirt, should be lined up before a firing squad

it is so boring, slow and tuneless

only PJ album I find to be anywhere near listenable is "Vs"

**Janszoon** · 02-24-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

all I have to say that people who mention this album in the same breath as Nirvana's Nevermind (which I don't really like that much either), Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger and Alice in Chains' Dirt, should be lined up before a firing squad

it is so boring, slow and tuneless

only PJ album I find to be anywhere near listenable is "Vs"

Whether you love the album or hate the album, "tuneless" is clearly not a word that describes it. Nor is "slow" really, unless you're a person who listens to grindcore and bluegrass exclusively.

Howard the Duck · 02-24-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Whether you love the album or hate the album, "tuneless" is clearly not a word that describes it. Nor is "slow" really, unless you're a person who listens to grindcore and bluegrass exclusively.

"sludgy" is a more appropriate word

the tunes didn't register in my head, besides "Jeremy"

duga · 02-24-2012, 10:07 AM

I happen to like all those albums (Nevermind being the weakest).

I can understand not liking Nevermind...hell, I can even understand not liking Ten. But for someone who appreciates metal, how can you not enjoy Dirt and Badmotorfinger just a little? I will defend Badmotorfinger until the day I die. That album is an absolute classic and people should play it to their children to put them to sleep.

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duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	I happen to like all those albums (Nevermind being the weakest). I can understand not liking Nevermind...hell, I can even understand not liking Ten. But for someone who appreciates metal, how can you not enjoy Dirt and Badmotorfinger just a little? I will defend Badmotorfinger until the day I die. That album is an absolute classic and people should play it to their children to put them to sleep. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...