King Crimson Introduction & Question

RMR · 01-14-2012, 06:18 AM

I normally don't like to label music-- usually that's done by record companies to market bands, so I normally try to stay away from stamping one label on a band because they rarely are the pure representation of that label. I was interested in King Crimson, though.

On the grunge label that I originally wrote, I read an article several years ago that said that King Crimson's sound in their 73-74 period was very "grungy" not to be compared with the grunge bands of the early 90's... just that it was very "grungy" sounding, with which I still somewhat agree; however, the word has way too many connotations to bands like Nirvana to used, so I should have never used that adjective to start with. Here are my final labels, with the help of IL Duce:

Period 1- "In the Court," "Poseidon," "Lizard," "Islands" (original progressive rock)
Period 2- "Larks' Tongues in Aspic," "Starless and Bible Black," "Red" (improvisational proto-progressive metal)
Period 3- "Discipline," "Beat," "Three of a Perfect Pair" (progressive new wave)
Period 4- "THRAK," "The Construction of Light," "The Power to Believe" (industrial and avant-garde progressive metal)

Unknown Soldier · 01-14-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

aduhai! again with the Talking Heads comparison

just because Adrian Belew was there doesn't make them sound like the Heads

I disagree, so there.

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Originally Posted by RMR

I normally don't like to label music-- usually that's done by record companies to market bands, so I normally try to stay away from stamping one label on a band because they rarely are the pure representation of that label. I was interested in King Crimson, though.

On the grunge label that I originally wrote, I read an article several years ago that said that King Crimson's sound in their 73-74 period was very "grungy" not to be compared with the grunge bands of the early 90's... just that it was very "grungy" sounding, with which I still somewhat agree; however, the word has way too many connotations to bands like Nirvana to used, so I should have never used that adjective to start with. Here are my final labels, with the help of IL Duce:

Period 1- "In the Court," "Poseidon," "Lizard," "Islands" #original progressive rock#
Period 2- "Larks' Tongues in Aspic," "Starless and Bible Black," "Red" #improvisational proto-progressive metal#
Period 3- "Discipline," "Beat," "Three of a Perfect Pair" #progressive new wave#
Period 4- "THRAK," "The Construction of Light," "The Power to Believe" #industrial and avant-garde progressive metal#

I would make that five periods with Lizard and Islands being period 2.

RMR · 01-14-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I would make that five periods with Lizard and Islands being period 2.

I don't have "Islands," but but "Lizard" is certainly more jazzy than "ITCOTCK" or "ITWOP."

So, for the sake of conversation, how would you classify "Lizard" and "Islands"?

Unknown Soldier · 01-14-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RMR

I don't have "Islands," but but "Lizard" is certainly more jazzy than "ITCOTCK" or "ITWOP."

So, for the sake of conversation, how would you classify "Lizard" and "Islands"?

Prog rock with a jazz infusion is how I would describe them, nowhere as heavily jazz fused as say The Soft Machine though. At that time jazz fusion in rock was the in thing.

Howard the Duck · 01-14-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RMR

I don't have "Islands," but but "Lizard" is certainly more jazzy than "ITCOTCK" or "ITWOP."

So, for the sake of conversation, how would you classify "Lizard" and "Islands"?

medieval jazz-folk prog?

01-14-2012, 06:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
RMR Front to Back Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 360	I normally don't like to label music-- usually that's done by record companies to market bands, so I normally try to stay away from stamping one label on a band because they rarely are the pure representation of that label. I was interested in King Crimson, though. On the grunge label that I originally wrote, I read an article several years ago that said that King Crimson's sound in their 73-74 period was very "grungy" not to be compared with the grunge bands of the early 90's... just that it was very "grungy" sounding, with which I still somewhat agree; however, the word has way too many connotations to bands like Nirvana to used, so I should have never used that adjective to start with. Here are my final labels, with the help of IL Duce: Period 1- "In the Court," "Poseidon," "Lizard," "Islands" (original progressive rock) Period 2- "Larks' Tongues in Aspic," "Starless and Bible Black," "Red" (improvisational proto-progressive metal) Period 3- "Discipline," "Beat," "Three of a Perfect Pair" (progressive new wave) Period 4- "THRAK," "The Construction of Light," "The Power to Believe" (industrial and avant-garde progressive metal) __________________ RMR My music reivew site: RMR Music Reviews