Loveless

Gregor XIII · 04-18-2011, 03:10 AM

You're (re-)stating the obvious, my good sir. And it's kinda boring... I'd much rather read what you think are better influences, and why.

Or let's discuss something else, perhaps: Which albums took the sound of Loveless the furthest? I'd argue the real successors to the shoegaze-throne was the early wave of Post-Rock. The Lost Generation. Quique by Seefeel and DI Go Pop by Disco Inferno (especially) are probably the two albums I feel used the template of Loveless the best.

starrynight · 04-18-2011, 03:43 AM

You were talking about yourself being objectively right so I gave the reply to counteract that.

If you have read this thread you would see that have I already spoken about others like Slowdive, Cocteau Twins. I'd add Julee Cruise as well perhaps. More melodic and I suspect more likely to be enjoyed by more people.

Gregor XIII · 04-18-2011, 04:38 AM

I have read the thread. You never ever spoke comittingly about your favorites. Just with question marks. I had no idea whether you actually preferred those bands, or whether you were just proposing those ideas. And you miss the 'why' part. Why do you prefer Slowdive and Cocteau Twins (whom I'm not sure I'd categorize as shoegaze, but whatever). Not that I'd disagree, I think you have fine taste, and probably prefer Pygmylion to Loveless myself. It's just so amazingly chill and freefloating. It immediately relaxes me when I put it on. Hm, I'm going to put it on right now.

And I did no such thing as claiming I was objectively right. Some things are implied and doesn't need to be drawn out. So let's drop that discussion.

Gregor XIII · 04-18-2011, 04:39 AM

Oh, I missed your explanation. Sorry. Melody... Hm... Then I'm not sure we'll agree...

debaserr · 04-18-2011, 03:11 PM

I recently got a nice vinyl rip of this. It's amazing how many more layers there are to this album that I'd never heard before.

I'm with streetwaves, Loomer is the best track here, but Sometimes is right behind.

Phantom Limb · 04-20-2011, 10:34 PM

This is my personal favorite off this album.

Loveless is actually the only MBV album i've listened to, is anything else worth mentioning?

debaserr · 04-20-2011, 11:53 PM

if anyone wants to hear this on vinyl I'd be happy to up if for you.

Phantom Limb · 04-21-2011, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric generic

if anyone wants to hear this on vinyl I'd be happy to up if for you.

I'd like it for sure.

~~Farfisa~~ · 05-09-2011, 05:45 AM

God damn, it sucks that this album isn't always being printed on vinyl. I mean, if it receives universal praise and is often called "One of the best albums of the 90's" then why isn't it being reprinted? It must have to do with Creation going under and the painstaking process that goes into trying to re-issue it. I looked for "Loveless" on vinyl via ebay and they go up to 100 bucks, shiiiiiiit. I want to play the record, not frame the damn thing. Please, just hurry up and re-issue this so I can buy it and listen to it the way it was meant to be listened to.

Sneer · 05-14-2011, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships

God damn, it sucks that this album isn't always being printed on vinyl. I mean, if it receives universal praise and is often called "One of the best albums of the 90's" then why isn't it being reprinted? It must have to do with Creation going under and the painstaking process that goes into trying to re-issue it. I looked for "Loveless" on vinyl via ebay and they go up to 100 bucks, shiiiiiiit. I want to play the record, not frame the damn thing. Please, just hurry up and re-issue this so I can buy it and listen to it the way it was meant to be listened to.

Dude... I got Loveless on vinyl from Amazon for £15 like last year?

EDIT: Fair play, looked on the US Amazon and it's like $140... sucks to be American eh.

04-18-2011, 03:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gregor XIII Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 57	You're (re-)stating the obvious, my good sir. And it's kinda boring... I'd much rather read what you think are better influences, and why. Or let's discuss something else, perhaps: Which albums took the sound of Loveless the furthest? I'd argue the real successors to the shoegaze-throne was the early wave of Post-Rock. The Lost Generation. Quique by Seefeel and DI Go Pop by Disco Inferno (especially) are probably the two albums I feel used the template of Loveless the best. __________________ Agnes Varda's Le Bonheur + thoughts on women in Akhmatova and Mizuguchi: The Centrifugue

04-18-2011, 04:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
Gregor XIII Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 57	I have read the thread. You never ever spoke comittingly about your favorites. Just with question marks. I had no idea whether you actually preferred those bands, or whether you were just proposing those ideas. And you miss the 'why' part. Why do you prefer Slowdive and Cocteau Twins (whom I'm not sure I'd categorize as shoegaze, but whatever). Not that I'd disagree, I think you have fine taste, and probably prefer Pygmylion to Loveless myself. It's just so amazingly chill and freefloating. It immediately relaxes me when I put it on. Hm, I'm going to put it on right now. And I did no such thing as claiming I was objectively right. Some things are implied and doesn't need to be drawn out. So let's drop that discussion. __________________ Agnes Varda's Le Bonheur + thoughts on women in Akhmatova and Mizuguchi: The Centrifugue

04-18-2011, 04:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gregor XIII Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 57	Oh, I missed your explanation. Sorry. Melody... Hm... Then I'm not sure we'll agree... __________________ Agnes Varda's Le Bonheur + thoughts on women in Akhmatova and Mizuguchi: The Centrifugue

04-18-2011, 03:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
debaserr eat the masters Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,470	I recently got a nice vinyl rip of this. It's amazing how many more layers there are to this album that I'd never heard before. I'm with streetwaves, Loomer is the best track here, but Sometimes is right behind. __________________ Last.FM

04-20-2011, 11:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
debaserr eat the masters Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,470	if anyone wants to hear this on vinyl I'd be happy to up if for you. __________________ Last.FM

04-18-2011, 03:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	You were talking about yourself being objectively right so I gave the reply to counteract that. If you have read this thread you would see that have I already spoken about others like Slowdive, Cocteau Twins. I'd add Julee Cruise as well perhaps. More melodic and I suspect more likely to be enjoyed by more people.

04-20-2011, 10:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Phantom Limb Chocolate Homunculus Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,293	This is my personal favorite off this album. Loveless is actually the only MBV album i've listened to, is anything else worth mentioning?

05-09-2011, 05:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	God damn, it sucks that this album isn't always being printed on vinyl. I mean, if it receives universal praise and is often called "One of the best albums of the 90's" then why isn't it being reprinted? It must have to do with Creation going under and the painstaking process that goes into trying to re-issue it. I looked for "Loveless" on vinyl via ebay and they go up to 100 bucks, shiiiiiiit. I want to play the record, not frame the damn thing. Please, just hurry up and re-issue this so I can buy it and listen to it the way it was meant to be listened to.