Roygbiv

Sure, but it disrupts the flow of the album. It just comes suddenly after the soaring beauty of With or Without You.

On it's own it's a good song, but when judging the album in its entirety it's the weakest link.

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Roygbiv

I think it comes too suddenly. Maybe it's personal taste, then : P

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Guybrush

Here's an interesting bit of trivia regarding the order of songs :

This was found in the album's wikipedia article -> The Joshua Tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Roygbiv

That IS interesting. However, Bullet The Blue Sky > Red Hill Mining Town AND One Tree Hill?

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Guybrush

I think my order would be .. Red Hill > Bullet > One Tree .. Sorry tree-huggers!

edit :

Actually, I've reconsidered. Red Hill > One Tree > Bullet.

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Roygbiv

That's a good choice.

My Joshua Tree would look like this:

1 - Where The Streets Have No Name
2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
3 - With Or Without You
4 - Running To Stand Still
5 - Red Hill Mining Town
6 - Bullet The Blue Sky
7 - In God's Country
8 - Trip Through Your Wires
9 - One Tree Hill
10 - Exit
11 - Mothers of the Disappeared

Not because I like Bullet the Blue Sky or anything, but because it would flow better that way.

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Roygbiv

I decided to review these two albums at the same time because I found myself saying similar things about them when I tried reviewing them individually. There’s also no score because it’s pointless to score two albums that were clearly terrible.

Both Rattle & Hum and Pop share the unfortunate fate of being considered the worst albums of their respective decades. The reasons differ slightly, but they both arrive at the same conclusion. In Rattle & Hum’s case, fans had already listened to what most considered the pinnacle of U2’s 80s sound in The Joshua Tree. In Pop’s case, fans were no longer interested by the electro/dance gimmick that the band took to ridiculous levels by the time Zooropa came out. It didn’t help that Pop came out five years after Zooropa – by then I imagine fans were expecting something else from the band. You’d think that Rattle & Hum, which came out a year after The Joshua Tree, wouldn’t suffer from what Pop suffered from, but it did. Fans didn’t need another album after The Joshua Tree, not for awhile, especially because most of its singles were played on the radio in full force even a year later (and, heck, decades later).


Both albums also suffer from being too bloated. At 72 and 60 minutes respectively, they are U2’s longest albums. The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby, at over 50 minutes apiece, were allowed – and dare I say embraced – because there were hits all over them. Otherwise their albums are no longer than 42 minutes (Zooropa is the odd one out, running for 51 minutes).

There are some good tracks within both albums, namely within Rattle & Hum, which hosts my favourite U2 song, “Angel Of Harlem.” Pop has a much more forgettable set of okay songs, however – the only real highlight being Discotheque and maybe If God Will Send His Angels.

If there’s one really good thing to say about each of these albums is that they finalized a stage of U2’s sound. After Rattle & Hum, U2 would reinvent themselves with a distinctly 90s sound, and after Pop they would reinvent themselves by embracing an alternative radio, allowing U2 to adapt to the shifting tides.

Maybe after No Line On The Horizon, they’ll try going “indie.”

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Bulldog

Angel Of Harlem is a fantastic song - it'd be my favourite U2 one if it weren't for that one song off the Joshua Tree that I've mentioned before. Other than that, Rattle and Hum's pretty forgettable. Pop, on the other hand, is just absolutely terrible.

Guybrush

I agree that none of the albums are good, but I find enjoyable moments on both. On Rattle & Hum, I can sort of enjoy Desire, Hawkmoon, Silver & Gold, Heartland .. On Pop, Gone, Miami, Wake Up Dead Man. I don't think they're awful, but mediocre perhaps. But of course, mediocre albums from such a big band are gonna disappoint.

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kyleargyle

I think Pop might just be U2's most underrated album.

Rattle and Hum was ****, though.