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shadowsniper · 05-28-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo

God, I try to avoid this but I can't.

You say that America holds a great deal of shares of the oil corporations...so why would we attack Iraq for more oil? The whole oil part of things is what pisses me off. In the end, if we don't turn the oil wells back over to Iraqi companies than I will talk of my mistake, until then, it's a hushed topic.

Second, I truly don't see how any AMERICAN can have sympathy for the Iraqis. The same Iraqis who were dancing in the streets of Baghdad after the 9/11 bombings. Remember, that was the act of war which got everything started. But I guess that is Bush's fault for not jumping in front of the plant?

Third, you guys jump on my back like I'm a Bush fanatic. I truly don't think his presidency is a great one. But when I look on things, I can say that I believe he has handled things better than (in my opinion) Kerry, Gore, or even Nader would have. The one thing people need to notice, Terrorism is not a Crime, It is an Act of War. Gore would treat it like crime, just as Kerry would, arresting those who did it and punishing them. What Bush has done, and what you might disagree with, is that he has put the Terrorists on the defensive. Anyone see terrorist attacks on US Soil recently? No, they have the terrorists trying to protect themselves.

I agree, it is hard to see how everything is going now, and eventually we will see when everything "pans out" in the end. I don't think you can judge the actions of Bush now, but much later down (15-20 or so years). I'm gonna try my hardest not post again, because I can see this as you not wanting to change your point of view, and me not willing to change mine.

The thing you have to understand is that Iraqi's arent the terrorist and I dont know how in the world we got this image of Iraqi terrorist. The reason terrorist are in the country now is because they see a killing frenzy and they are joing in by killing Americans and trying to get as much propaganda as possible. This war has done more for terrorism then against it. The terrorist arent on the defense. You cant beat terrorism, hardly. All they do is go lay low while bombs drop and hide. How can you fight an invisible enemy. They arent on defense they are still waiting as much as they were before september 11th. We have a new terrorist alert now. Are we winning? Iraqis dancing in the streets. Well just because a handful of Iraqis are dancing in the street (also take note that Saddam was in power and he forced people to do such demonstrations) doesnt make them terrorist. Alot of people thought the US deserved such a punishment. We dont recognize the stuff we do until people lash out, thats our problem and then we are blinded and fight back and kill random innocent people and then we get more terrorism. Thats the problem.