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Originally Posted by Conan
Nobody who thinks sees Justin Bieber as talentless.
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Yes they do. Who here, besides myself, have remarked on his talents? Even you failed to concede to it.
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They see him for what he is, somebody who's biggest asset is his producer and marketing staff. People are generally upset about pop stars because there are far more creative talents out there that are ignored, simply because the general public has a more passive interest in music then they do.
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If his biggest asset was production and marketing, would he have been such a huge deal on youtube before his record contract? Wouldn't that imply that any person could be a pop star? (because certainly it's not an easy job) Charisma and vocal execution are quintessential factors to be considered. Anyway, a lot of rock bands also enlist the aid of producers to help translate their sound into the studio in the way they want to, and alot of them also heavily rely on promotional assets such as the music video etc. to help them sell their albums. What's the difference between that and Bieber? Success? Hardly a fault.
Don;t get me wrong...I don't thing he deserves any artist of the year award, and he's hardly Bob Dylan when it comes to songwriting, but people here really do have a skewed vision of the mechanics of pop.