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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA
Oh! I see, James. I misunderstood. So there's a way to get visitor messages to show up in your e-mail just like private message do? I didn't realize that.
On a related topic, the e-mail verification system...
If MB had an e-mail verification system, I assume this means that when people sign up they would get an e-mail with a random ID link that must be clicked to activate their account.
This e-mail verification system would benefit us (and especially you and the other moderators) because it would create an extra step people have to take before they can join MB, and force them to use a real e-mail address, making it harder for people to spam the site.
I wonder if the Admin just doesn't really care about spammers because for statistical purposes a spam post is still a visitor, and a member is a member. So the more people who use the site, even if it is for spamming, the more traffic the site gets. This may make it easier to sell advertisements, which I assume are the only source of revenue that the owners get from this site.
If this is the case, then the Admin wouldn't be motivated to have an e-mail verification system. If they see the site just in terms of money, and it sounds like they do, then I think we've got to argue in terms of money, pointing out how improvements like this could make the owners MORE money by increasing the number of active, legitimate members who come here for a positive, spam-free experience.
Hey! Annoying people into submission is MY technique, Freebase! 
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That's all pretty much exactly what I was thinking as well. But since this particular site doesn't advertise, apart from some very minor stuff for unregistered members from what I hear, and have never actually seen myself, it would be very hard to make money off what they've got going at the moment at this particular site.
But there is another angle. There are people who flip websites in pretty much the same way they flip houses, land, or any other thing in order to gain a profit off what they paid initially. The general idea in the website sense is to buy a website from the original owner that is already started up and has a following, and either just simply wait for more traffic to increase its worth, or implement your own changes to expedite the process.
You may already know this, but websites have a "theoretical" monetary "worth" based on how many hits/visits/stays the site regularly gets. This "worth" is based on what the average payout from advertisement is for sites with a given number of regular visitors . You don't have to let advertising companies advertise on your site to estimate this worth... If you fall into a category where advertising would pay well, i.e. you draw a crowd consistently (because advertisers need an actual audience) then you are worth something as a website.
You can either choose to let advertisers advertise on your site and make money from the advertisers... or you can let your worth increase and sell the website based on that worth, assuming there is someone else who is willing to buy the website and make money off it with advertising or flipping it again.
For as long as you don't either sell a product from your website or advertise on it, you aren't making money from it. Being that Musicbanter is owned by a comany, "Advameg", who owns a bunch of other sites which don't contain any significant advertising at all from what I've seen, I think it's a pretty good bet that these are simply investments.. us included.. that have nothing to do with the actual subject matter other than the propensity for people to be drawn to them and increase a website's worth with hits, so that the sites can either be sold for a profit, or advertised on for an income.
Anyway, I say all that to say, you got the right idea. I don't think these people give a sh
it about Musicbanter in the same way that we do. That's why it's obviously tooth and nail to get even the little things done around here. All we are, are hits.