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You're referring to the Beach Boys album, correct? I haven't listened to the album, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Could you explain?
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Pet Sounds, regardless of my own opinion of it is considered in general to be pop masterpiece.
You said that people should hear an album by an artist before they decide their opinion of that artist. So if someone were to think that the songs that have already been released as singles (which are basically used as advertisements for an album) are total trash why on earth would you want to listen to the rest of it.
Hence my comment to you that it would need to be something pretty special (e.g. something as highly regarded as the album I mentioned) to make me want to listen to the rest of it.
If not, then why bother?
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My point was that I'm sure you all have artists who may have released a single, and you ask yourself, "Why the hell did they release that particular song? Why didn't they release this song, or that song?" To me, that's the case with Ke$ha. I'm not fond of Tik-Tok or Take It Off, and wish she would have released, say, Hungover, or maybe the title track of her album, Animal. If I had completely written her off and ignored her at the initial release of Tik-Tok, I would have missed out on some of her other songs that I like.
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Like I said, why should anyone bother?
There are millions of bands & artists out they all bidding for my attention.
Why should she get any special attention just because she has a record contract?
If she's not releasing her best songs then someone at the record company needs firing. It's their job to sell the artist to me, not the other way around.
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I guess I expected more of fellow music lovers, some of the previous comments remind me of pretentious people from my high school who are anti-anything remotely mainstream, even if they hadn't heard it.
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You pretty much said yourself it's throwaway pop, there's tons of that kind of stuff around on TV & Radio & in the media. What's wrong with wanting to listen to something of more substance in the privacy of your own record collection?
I don't have the resources or the time to listen to every single album around. So why shouldn't I disregard something I've only heard bad things about and which I know isn't likely to appeal to me?
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Why would you want to be like that? Why not listen to the stuff you like that's mainstream AND whatever indie/underground/obscure stuff you like.
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I would say everybody on this forum I've encountered does do that. You've been here all of 5 minutes. I'd be interested to know how you've suddenly become an expert on everybody's taste in music here in that short space of time. I've been here around 5 years and I wouldn't pretend to know all of that.
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If it doesn't appeal to you, just say, "It doesn't really appeal to me." Simple as that.
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Also, is the generalizing against adolescents really necessary? You're being no better than morons who blindly worship the radio and shun anything obscure. Your stance is the complete opposite of theirs. If you think that you're somehow better than someone for boycotting the radio, I think you have some underlying confidence issues.
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Personally I'd take more notice of someone who went out & discovered music for themselves through checking out albums & going to live shows much more than I would than someone who stays at home and chooses to be force fed whatever some radio station wants to play to attract the most advertising revenue. If that to say everything on the radio is trash? No it isn't, but at the end of day a radio stations job is to make money, not expand my musical palette. and that's why a lot of people are turned off by radio. Nothing to do with confidence issues at all. If anything you're the one who seems threatened by them.
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Also, have you ever seen people that stop liking a band just because they went from being unknown to being popular? That's the vibe I'm getting from your posts, and I hope that I'm wrong.
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Bands run out of ideas, bands are forced to compromise to maximise sales. People get tired of hearing the same songs over & over again.
There's lots of reasons why bands lose fans when they become more popular, It happens. I don't see why you're so worried about why other people like or dislike artists.