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Originally Posted by bannister
I don't really think it's any of anybody's business to rag on someone because of how feminine or masculine they are or aren't. It's stupid and hypocritical, but it's actually fairly common in a lot of branches of feminism.
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I'm glad somebody finally accepts this.
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I think our ideas of gender need to be challenged every once in a while, but I really can't be bitchy to anyone who decides to be "feminine", for two reasons. One, it's an individual choice. Two, I've decided to be "feminine" already by painting my nails, shaving, plucking my eyebrows, and wearing makeup.
I don't think I could **** up and embrace the patriarchy any more in the eyes of the radicals.
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Radicals should just stop bitching and grow a d*ck already.
First of all, patriacy is NOT an enforced system anymore, not in this country, except in the most conservative religious communities, which thankfully more and more people today are critical of and people now have the right to defect from these communities without severe punishment. Except closed communities who have their own laws and can banish anyone who chooses not to follow them, I few bad for the people who get born into those.
Second, being very feminine in your appearance and interests does not mean you are submissive to men and giving in to the oppression of females.
And third. The problem with every revolutionary movement and counter culture is that while they claim to oppose conformity, they really don't. They dislike the current social doctrines yes, but they don't dislike the overall idea of having a social order, they still want to make their
own beliefs into social doctrine. And once they succeed they have simply replaced the old oppressers but they end up being just as bad in the end.
Pretty much the big problem I have with radical feminism and any radical movement. Even the Nazi party fought social order before becoming the social order themselves. That's an extreme comparison but my point is that radicalism is dangerous in any context.