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Old 07-23-2010, 06:02 PM   #85 (permalink)
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So cressidagater, just to steer the discussion in a biologically relevant direction - you write that it is in the best interest of the species to have consensual sex. But what if you are a man who is not attractive and can't attract a partner? You can't find a partner for consensual sex .. what is the "best" course of action then (from a selfish point of view)?
well, unattractive by whose definition? thats the question. when it comes down to it, we are all too picky. Beauty is function; if you're alive thats beautiful enough on some level is it not? if its got a pulse, bone it lol only joking. I mean platonically all things are beautiful. not to sound cheesy but everyone is beautiful in their own way. In my opinion it's about finding someone you match up with very well. So while you may be ugly to some, there's someone out there to whom you'll be attractive. Finding someone you desire to procreate with and they with you. Because arguably, that is your biology, even, searching for the complimentary biology. When you truly find it, and they come together, all complimentary pieces, then a new life will be created.

If someone doesnt WANT to do it obviously they're not complimentary to you.


The race COULD survive via rape. You could argue all animals rape to survive, only I wouldnt argue that. Because they, (and I say this from observation alone), presumably cant think to do otherwise. So it's not rape per se, because there's no objection to it. We can think, we can object. The race could survive like that, by rape, to what end, though? What sort of human beings would that create, bred from a race of rapists? Degenerates. Behave like animals, and we'll become mere animals.

We could also keep the race alive by ****ing mindlessly. Consensually. But again, that undermines the ability to think.

This idea of beauty and ugliness, comes from that - thinking to finding a mate, with whom you could make a healthy baby; and then care 1. for this baby 2. for each other. Two people consensually having sex who find each others physical features tantalising and attractive, and each others minds stimulating, to make a baby, and to then care for the baby and each other altogether as a family. That's a solid unit that'll not only biologically keep the genes of the Human race alive, but our sanity, too; mental health.

Rape is just the failure or "impatience" to achieve that.

People might, as they do nowadays, popularly agree on whats beautiful and whats ugly. As such, individuals might be ridiculed or ostrasized for not fitting that. But you don't know who's out there - even if you're quasimodo, maybe you'll find miss quasimodo. Why should someone deprecate themself or see themself as inferior just because no-one they've met so far of the opposite sex has found them attractive? If you got all the bits and they work, no worries man nothing wrong or ugly.

I'm not even saying everyone will neccessarily get that in this life just because they desire it; the family, the love. You gotta work for it man. Might not happen for em. I'm saying, it's ideal, from my perspective, thats what I search for; and having questioned and explored the idea, I believe it's what every human being desires, and if asked I'd tell them to search for it too. Not everyone will achieve it, unfortunatly. I am selfish, to a great extent - would I be here discussing it if I'd found it? no. **** you all once i've found it everyone else can go **** themselves. What I'm saying here is, the rapists, the perverts, THIS is what they really want. They fool themselves otherwise, or maybe they dont fool themselves who knows, but whatever the case, that other stuff they do, is a comfort to them for having failed. Truth be told, you haven't failed, until you're dead. Why give up?

Very improbable I'll achieve this ideal of mine myself even, I'm well aware how I come across from these posts, and if anything, the internet waters me down; people dont want anything to do with me in general, and if im perfectly honest i dont want anything to do with a lot of people. But does that mean I'll give up? no. somewhere out there is a mentally imbalanced fascist sociopathic hilarious little sex queen of a kinky lady. Thats what the world will call her. What would I call her? free-minded and beautiful. As God is my witness im gonna find her.

tl;dr - If you're an ugly ****er, grow a sense of humour. That never hurts.
Someone being unattractive to the point that nobody on the planet would have sex with them , thats pushing it a bit there, though man. Not even hookers?

ah man hookers. thats a whole nother topic in itself.

Or you mean purely from the side that nobody would wish to procreate with them or settle down, have a family? Like I said, they should keep looking then,lol.



At the end of the day, one person concievably can rape another person. Just as I can, concievably sit here all day and hit my head against a brick wall.

Maybe the human race will continue healthily, maybe it works. And maybe I'll understand string theory. But if I want to understand string theory, surely, the intelligent thing to do, is to go and read up on string theory, rather than bang my head against the wall all day?

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yeh just ignore my post actually this is a much better answer man lol

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