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Originally Posted by tore
The point is only that behaviour is influenced by genes so behaviour is a response to environment with foundations in genetics. Our genetic makeup is not random - we are products of evolution, processes like natural and sexual selection.
Maybe you didn't read my post on page 2, but this bit here is getting pretty close to the biological theory which explains rape as a strategy  To understand the hypothesis in full, you have to know about biological selfishness. No animal has sex for the sake of it's species and no person has sex for the sake of humanity. We do it for our own sake.
Also, what you do and I don't is concern yourself too much with morality. To me, that's not the interesting thing here. Of course I don't condone rape and I don't think people here believe I do. I expect every other sane person here to feel the same, so discussing the morality of it is not really interesting to me. Discussing whether rape is a product or a byproduct of evolution is. |
Well what you call morality, I call a
better way of doing things. Just because there's a reason for things, doesnt mean the reason is good, or that the act is good. Rape is a sub-standard, lesser, weaker version of sex. Morality and immorality are only words; what im talking about, is the optimum way of doing things. Of living, even. Any reason you could theroise as to the biological purpose of rape, or as to how it somehow keeps the species alive, I could counter by saying, "it is always, always, always, going to be in the interest of the species, for the male and female to consensually have sex and then raise the child together". thats the highest percentage for this child surviving.
Maybe I get carried away, I apologise man I get fired up and go off on a tangent. Genuinely I believe there's some solid intelligent reasoning behind what I'm saying though; I'm not just arguing to be difficult here.
To pick up on a point there, you could claim no animal has sex for the purpose of sexual reproduction. And that sex its purely selfish. But, what is sex? the release of hormones, egg/sperms so forth. The satisfaction of releasing them, surely, is more satisfying, to release them in the CORRECT place; what I mean by correct, is the place that is willing, and also fundamnetllay designed to accept them. For example; a hat fitsthe head. It is more satisfying to wear a hat the fits more precisely, than the hat that does not fit.
So regardless of whether or not an organism is, inwardly concious of the fact that they';re havign sex for propagation and reporduction; if they only believe they're doing it for the orgasm, this doesnt matter. Because in my opinion, if they're only interested in orgasm, then surely they'd want the best orgasm possible. And I believe the best orgasm possible, is gonna be, with the aofrementioned thing, that is designed purely and utterly 100% by nature TO satisfy them. It doesnt matter if they dont think thats what theyu're doing; thats what theyy'll ultimatly end up doing even if they're only being selfish. People arent completely selfish though. Its a lot more complicated than that.
I agree that it's very interesting to discuss the beginnings of rape, what it is, where it comes from, what causes one to do it. But to myself, I feel the need to put this in context of Humanity. Not just, the how and why, but also, the what; what it is exactly, what should be done about it.
After analysing the whys, the hows, the whats, should it be celebrated and encouraged? or is it something detrimental?