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~~bungalow~~ · 07-15-2010, 10:35 AM

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just to clarify, where exactly are you drawing a distinction or disagreeing with what erica has said? the whole disagreement seems pretty manufactured to give you a platform for your self-absorbed, reactionary musings on poetry. your attempt to position your stance as the result of "a more disciplined search" is ridiculously condescending (in the sense that it is both ridiculous and condescending). who here, beside you, had even offered a coherent estimation of poetry for you to position yourself against? what is the 'itness' of poetry that this board maintains? again, you rightly predicted the obvious objection to your entire point when you said, "for this reason mostly, I don't try and put my finger on what something is." you define poetry too narrowly, with a self-absorbed focus on your own half-baked poetic theorizing that leaves room for multiple contradictions, and then, when the contradictions are pointed out you try and situate them as differences of opinion rather than a flaw in your definition. and i think that is the essential problem with (and genesis of) this debate--it isn't just that i feel poetry can occasionally be comforting, angsty, sentimental (or rhymed)--it's that it can be and occasionally is all of those things and you have chosen exclude this poetry from your true, "disciplined" (

) definition as the worthless contrivances of love-hurt teenagers--as though poetry cannot be worthless or written by love-hurt teenagers, it is the domain solely of canonized poets.

maybe you're just unaware that there is good poetry and there is bad poetry, and these determinations are mostly left to subjective value judgments, but it is all poetry and your estimation of what constitutes good poetry is distinct from what constitutes poetry.

here you go big3, i know it's hard to get through, what with all the painful invectives i've leveled against you. but when you've taken a moment to wipe your tears and clear your head, perhaps you could blow some more hot air my way?